[Design and Technology] Technology education teacher training

Wed May 9 10:21:40 EST 2007

Well I guess I owe you an apology. I was not saying it did not have
depth but that the 4 year course , being 4 years, did.

Sorry that it was laughable, just expressing my thoughts and I
respect your experience. I'm nNOT against you or the existing
courses, just think Melbourne needs to do more !

Philip

On 08.05.2007 at 16:51:42, "Hewitt, Dean C"
<Hewitt.Dean.C at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> As new teacher straight out of the two year course run at Latrobe
> Bundoora I found this course very informative and relevant to
teaching
> technology at a secondary level. Two claim that only completing a
two
> year degree fails to provide us with the "DEPTH" that four year
course
> provides is laughable, as everyone completing this course had to
provide
> 8 years of Trade experience to access this course. As ex "Tradies"
we
> can provide a view of what to expect when students are looking at
> starting an Apprenticeship or similar by moving into the "Real
World"
> and provide students real life experiences.
> 
> With the extra money that technology will be receiving we will be
able
> to provide our students better facility and equipment to prepare
then
> for what were are employed to do and educate students on "Life".
> 
> Dean Hewitt
> Technology Teacher
> Heathmont Secondary College
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of
> pcranswick at aitkencollege.edu.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2007 3:36 PM
> To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List; Design and
Technology
> Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Technology education teacher
> training
> 
> Thanks Lorraine
> 
> So Latrobe and Ballarat.  I guess many of us in our 40's and 50's
> went through Melbourne Uni's Melbourne State College - what a
great
> program that was.  Four year Ed Degree majoring metal or wood etc 
-
> very practical.  I guess that's the DEPTH of training that appears
to
> be missing now? I wish Melbourne Uni would start it up again.... a
bit
> like the Tech schools ... expensive to start em up again!
> 
> It's great you were able to give your perspective to those
students.
> Sounds very satisfying.
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On 08.05.2007 at 10:43:35, "Tran, Lorraine I"
> <tran.lorraine.i at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> 
> > Phil and list members
> >
> > There IS teacher training occurring for systems and design and
> > technology teaching.
> >
> > There is a four year undergraduate course 'Bachelor of
> > Education/Bachelor of Technology' at Ballarat University. There
are
> also
> > trades people (or those with industry experience) doing this
course
> who
> > are considered to have 'advanced standing' and complete the
course
> over
> > a shorter period. Perhaps technology education teachers can help
> promote
> > this course to their senior students. For more information about
> this
> > course, please go to
> > http://www.ballarat.edu.au/ard/education/BEd_BTech.shtml
> >
> >
> > La Trobe Uni (mainly Bundoora and Bendigo) also has a two year
> course
> > 'Graduate Diploma of Technology Education' for tradespeople
wishing
> to
> > retrain as technology teachers, including teaching vocational
> education
> > programs.
> >
> > Other entry to technology education teaching is via the
completion
> of a
> > relevant undergraduate course followed by a Diploma of Education
> (this
> > would require the inclusion of a technology education method in
the
> Dip
> > Ed).
> >
> > I addressed over 60 of the 'new wave' of future technology
teachers
> at
> > the Melbourne Museum on Sunday, who came to view the Top Designs
> > exhibition.
> >
> > Regards, Lorraine.
> >
> > Lorraine Tran
> > Curriculum Manager, P - 12 Design and Technology
> > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority (VCAA)
> > 41 St Andrews Place
> > East Melbourne 3002
> > http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au
> >
> > Email: tran.lorraine.i at edumail.vic.gov.au
> > Telephone: (03) 9651 4407
> > Mobile:       041 933 1630
> >
> >
> > The VCAA provides curriculum and assessment for prep to Year 12.
> The
> > VCAA is a statutory body directly responsible to the Minister
for
> > Education and Training and serves government and non-government
> schools.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of
> > pcranswick at aitkencollege.edu.au
> > Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2007 9:16 AM
> > To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Keeping you up to date
> >
> > Yes and the Universities must re introduce teacher training for
> > systems and design technology !
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 07.05.2007 at 18:48:27, Bazeley <bazeley at iinet.net.au>
wrote:
> >
> > > "Another $50 million has been committed over the next five
years
> to
> > build 30
> > > new technical wings
> > >
> > > in secondary schools and modernise equipment in all others." -
> John
> > Lenders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is a start but after 30 years of neglect they have a lot
off
> > catching up
> > > to do.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does any one know the details on when and how the money will
be
> > available?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard Bazeley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > [mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Peter
> Niass
> > > Sent: Monday, 7 May 2007 10:29 AM
> > > To: 'Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Keeping you up to date
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Lorraine,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This latest release of the Federal Governments thoughts on the
> > Future of
> > > Schooling in Australia is almost devoid of references to the
> role
> > of
> > > technology in Education. It says that we are doing pretty well
> in
> > Maths &
> > > Science (about equal 5th on PISA standardised tests) but this
is
> > for 15 year
> > > olds ability. It does not focus on the 19th place we get for
> > student
> > > satisfaction and engagement in Maths & Science. Our 15 year
olds
> > are capable
> > > enough, but they are so turned off Maths, Science &
Engineering
> > that they do
> > > not persue it as a career in university.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This report should look at the declining numbers of qualified
> > Maths, Science
> > > & Engineering graduates we are producing to focus on the real
> > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The report clearly shows that Finland has streaked ahead of
the
> > rest of the
> > > world, but the report attributes this to
> > >
> > > "In their reforms in the 1990s which resulted in them moving
to
> > the
> > > forefront of
> > >
> > > student achievement, they abandoned uniformity in curriculum
> > content and
> > > moved to basing their teaching
> > >
> > > and learning on rigorous curriculum standards while allowing
> > schools
> > > flexibility in the content of the curriculum
> > >
> > > in achieving these standards.14 Strong school leadership and
an
> > outstanding
> > > quality of teaching is what then
> > >
> > > delivered the world's best student results."
> > >
> > > They may well have adopted rigorous curriculum standards and
and
> a
> > flexible
> > > content, but the report fails to mention that they also
invested
> > massively
> > > in technology for schools.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > [mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Tran,
> > Lorraine I
> > > Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 4:56 PM
> > > To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List; Systems and
> > Technology
> > > Teachers' Mailing List
> > > Subject: [Design and Technology] Keeping you up to date
> > >
> > > Dear Colleagues
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You may be interested in looking at the following documents
> > released
> > > recently:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Future of Schooling in Australia report is available at
> > >
> >
>
www.education.vic.gov.au/about/news/newsalerts/adelaidedeclaration.htm
> >
> > >
> > > Note Cross disciplinary learning area list includes technology
> (ICT
> > and
> > > design) as part of a broad and comprehensive curriculum (page
> 28).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The STATE GOVERNMENT launched its 2007-08 BUDGET this week.
The
> > brochure
> > > over viewing components relevant to education highlights an
> > 'engaging vision
> > > for Victorian education' and 'a new generation of schools'.
See
> > >
> www.education.vic.gov.au/about/publications/budget/budget2007.htm
> > >
> > > Note $50m to redevelop 30 technical wings at Secondary schools
> and
> > to renew
> > > equipment at all secondary schools. (I presume government
> > schools.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards, Lorraine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lorraine Tran
> > >
> > > Curriculum Manager, P - 12 Design and Technology
> > >
> > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority (VCAA)
> > >
> > > 41 St Andrews Place
> > >
> > > East Melbourne 3002
> > >
> > > http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Email: tran.lorraine.i at edumail.vic.gov.au
> > >
> > > Telephone: (03) 9651 4407
> > >
> > > Mobile:       041 933 1630
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The VCAA provides curriculum and assessment for prep to Year
12.
> > The VCAA is
> > > a statutory body directly responsible to the Minister for
> Education
> > and
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