[Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 11, Issue 23

Garth, Lucas A garth.lucas.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Thu Sep 8 23:12:06 AEST 2016


Hi all
I’d certainly consider running Units 1 and 2 at Year 10. You can then run Informatics and Software Development every second year. Much preferable than trying to combine Year 11 and 12 in the same classroom.

Lucas

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Good point Mark, briefly entertained this notion one year. Another thought was to offer units 1,2 at year ten as an extended study then assemble a unit 3,4 class from the remaining year 11 and 12s.

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On 6 Sep 2016, at 2:55 PM, Mark <mark at vceit.com<mailto:mark at vceit.com>> wrote:
To clarify, I was suggesting that units 1&2 need not be taught at all.
One could just offer Unit 3+4 Info and SD on alternate years.

In my teaching career I rarely met a year 11 student who could handle IT units 1+2, but not Info or SD.
The KK and KS are nearly identical.

Regards,
Mark

On 6 September 2016 at 14:28, Pohlen, Gavin D <pohlen.gavin.d at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:pohlen.gavin.d at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Similar to what Mark said.  I have taught at a school that ran the Units 12 concurrently with 34.  The way the timetable was structured allowed both year levels one to one class time and then a double session where all kids were on a the same time.  At times this required a little bit of juggling but it was possible :)

Gavin Pohlen

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   1. Re: Combined Y11IT and Informatics Classes (Mark)
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Units 1 and 2 are not substantially different in content or level of difficulty to a lovechild of Info+SD.

Schools who can't run all units will often offer Info one year, and SD the next. Then back to Info.

Kids can benefit because they can claim a unit 3/4 subject during their relatively-quiet time in year 11.

Regards,
Mark



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> Wouldn?t you then run the risk of not running Informatics the year after?
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> Hello fellow Informaniacs,
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> Admin at our school have decided to merge Y11IT and Informatics
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Could hardly believe that within five minutes of reading your post, I had a call from our College Ops giving me a heads up that we may have to combine Year 11 (6 students) with a Year 12 (13 students) class. Had to check your email to see that it wasn't in fact an email from our school. Doesn't bear thinking about what 2018 will look like.

I said we can do it, but it's going to be difficult ...

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Hello fellow Informaniacs,

Admin at our school have decided to merge Y11IT and Informatics classes next year. I am wondering if anyone who has taught a merged class could share their experiences either on list or off? Would also welcome other thoughts about it from interested parties.

Regards,

Blaise Northey
Patterson River SC

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