[Informatics] Nelson exam and answers

Wed Nov 2 12:11:46 AEDT 2016

Perhaps this is really an issue where consumer law is involved rather than
the Copyright Act.

One could perhaps make a fair use argument under the "reasonable time"
provision in section 40 (2) (c).

Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired

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From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Adric Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 11:29 AM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers

Hi Vera,

I agree with you in principle, but the Copyright Act does not appear to have
any provision for that.

I might not agree with speed limits, but I’m still legally required to
abide by them.  If I choose not to, I’m breaking the law.

Mark’s point is that using the list in such a manner is using the list to
do this is not fair on the administrator of the list.

Regards,

Adric Gardner

From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Vera Cook
Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 7:49 AM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
<informatics at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers

I agree Mark, and normally I would not say anything but most schools
booklist the text book which in turn gives them access to the materials
however many of their staff do not send access codes to the schools even
when they are requested. The delay in the text book also stressed many
teachers due to the delay and I did not get one until nearly the end of term
one and that was after our librarian had to ring and email to ask why we did
not have them. I know we only have a small group of students studying
Informatics but they need to make it easier for us to obtain the resources
which according to their own system that we are entitled to. With my new lap
top trying to reset the password took ages as I kept getting blocked due to
our firewall and it was incredibly frustrating. Then waiting for resources
that have been paid for to arrive which I am sure I am not the only person
with 12s finished for the year. One of our resources we were invoiced twice
and am still waiting for resources. I have never felt more exhausted due to
all this happening.

It may be beneficial if Nelson created a teacher version of the text book
with access codes etc to relieve the pressure of us teachers who don’t have
the time to keep chasing up ordered resources.

Has anyone else had the same issues this year. I have been teaching for 20
years and have never spent as much time ringing, emailing and trying to
chase up resources that have been paid for or that we are entitled to.

It’s bad enough I was lucky enough to witness a person run over by a car in
Melbourne now I have had my first whinge for I don’t know how long.

Please rebut me now….

Vera

From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 3:42 PM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
<informatics at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers

Hi everyone.

I am the Edulist Moderator here.  You may not believe that, but I even have
a shiny official badge*.

While it's really nice to be helpful to the community, please remember that
Nelson/Cengage material is their intellectual property and is protected by
the Copyright Act 1968.

It is not fair or kind to Kevork to use his Edulist to share copyrighted
material.

Regards,

Moderator Mark

*Kevork - please send badge.

On 28 October 2016 at 15:09, Aitken, David <dfaitken at mgs.vic.edu.au> wrote:

Me to please as I have sent an email to nelson and they have not replied.
It’s been two weeks since I sent it.

From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Vera Cook
Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 2:49 PM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
<informatics at edulists.com.au>
Subject: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
Importance: High

Hi everyone,

Could someone please email me a copy of the nelson exam I can’t find my
details to logon and really need it now>

Vera

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