[Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68

Tue Nov 1 21:56:59 AEDT 2016

DLTV Office also moved to a new location that better suits the needs of the
members, so you can imagine the disruption created during term 3 as they
work through cardboard boxes, bubble wrap, communications etc.

On 31 October 2016 at 14:36, Christophersen, Paula P <
christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> Hi Heath and colleagues
>
> I will contact DLTV and make certain that you receive the information you
> are entitled to receive. The association is in the process of redressing
> its staffing situation so some matters are taking a little longer to action.
>
> Regards
> Paula
>
> Paula Christophersen
> Curriculum Manager, Digital Technologies
> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
> 2 Lonsdale Street
> MELBOURNE 3000
> (03) 9032 1724
> 0407 043 110
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Matheson, Heath A
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 2:16 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> On the same topic. I've been trying to get in touch with DLTV for the last
> four weeks. No answer and they use the 10 second message converted to text!
> No reply to e-mails. I was beginning to think that the organisation had
> gone under but I did get the newsletter last week. I have not received any
> updates to the resource pack since purchase and am wondering if there is a
> VCE exam in there now? I'm not feeling very supported by the organisation.
> Perhaps I'm just unlucky.
>
> Heath
> Mt Beauty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:informatics-bounces@
> edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:58 PM
> To: 'Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> Seem to be two issues here: copyright and service or lack thereof.
>
> Re copyright: Of course you are correct that people should not be copying
> materials and giving them to others who have not "paid" for them.
> BUT people do get frustrated when they cannot access materials they have
> paid for and cannot get a timely response from the providers, be that book
> publishers or DTLV. The copyright act used to contain a provision allowing
> copying under these circumstances.
> (I must get back to that science teacher at Morwell High who was foolish
> enough to give her science class, including my son, a test handwritten by
> me at Mirboo North.)
>
> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> Retired
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Bass, Gary S
> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 2:58 PM
> To: informatics at edulists.com.au
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> Greetings
>
> i am not sure taking out on others is the appropriate response to lack of
> action since February.
>
> On this list several times, mention has been made of access to answers to
> chapter questions, end of chapter quiz and SAT/SAC examples with suggested
> solutions.
>
> This is the benefit of booklisting.
> Your local Resources manager(Librarian?) will have these details.
>
> Every year teachers need to renew their access codes and class codes.
>
> This procedure is well established for several years (six i think) Asking
> for clearly copyrighted materials is a serious indiscretion, without
> getting into the legalities of the consequent action if anyone responds.
>
> Book sellers at present are getting around booklisting, not responding to
> current teachers with requests for current courses, after their students
> have finished classes.
>
> Google may be your friend, as was napster, bit-torrent and pirate bay,
> however we are over those now. ..
> Under bright light of day anyway.
>
> Gary Bass
> DECV
>
> > On 30 Oct 2016, at 12:00 PM, informatics-request at edulists.com.au wrote:
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:08:07 +0000
> > From: "Mekail, Nagla N" <mekail.nagla.n at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> > Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> > To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List"
> >       <informatics at edulists.com.au>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> > <265F662487B07F44B28B4D72D3CB1E403B65C94A at EDUMBX09.education.vic.gov.a
> > u>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > you are right Vera, I had to ring and then emailed the consultant
> > person
> who wasn't available so I had to email two other consultants till one of
> them emailed me the code, I am totally agree with you, they made it hard.
> It is frustrated me as well because I wanted to give it to my students
> before their last day.
> >
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Nagla
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Vera Cook
> > [vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au]
> > Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 7:48 AM
> > To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> >
> > I agree Mark, and normally I would not say anything but most schools
> booklist the text book which in turn gives them access to the materials
> however many of their staff do not send access codes to the schools even
> when they are requested. The delay in the text book also stressed many
> teachers due to the delay and I did not get one until nearly the end of
> term one and that was after our librarian had to ring and email to ask why
> we did not have them. I know we only have a small group of students
> studying Informatics but they need to make it easier for us to obtain the
> resources which according to their own system that we are entitled to. With
> my new lap top trying to reset the password took ages as I kept getting
> blocked due to our firewall and it was incredibly frustrating. Then waiting
> for resources that have been paid for to arrive which I am sure I am not
> the only person with 12s finished for the year. One of our resources we
> were invoiced twice and am still waiting for r!
> > esources. I have never felt more exhausted due to all this happening.
> >
> > It may be beneficial if Nelson created a teacher version of the text
> > book
> with access codes etc to relieve the pressure of us teachers who don?t
> have the time to keep chasing up ordered resources.
> >
> > Has anyone else had the same issues this year. I have been teaching
> > for 20
> years and have never spent as much time ringing, emailing and trying to
> chase up resources that have been paid for or that we are entitled to.
> >
> > It?s bad enough I was lucky enough to witness a person run over by a
> > car
> in Melbourne now I have had my first whinge for I don?t know how long.
> >
> > Please rebut me now?.
> >
> > Vera
> >
> > From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
> > Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 3:42 PM
> > To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> > <informatics at edulists.com.au>
> > Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> >
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I am the Edulist Moderator here.  You may not believe that, but I even
> have a shiny official badge*.
> >
> > While it's really nice to be helpful to the community, please remember
> that Nelson/Cengage material is their intellectual property and is
> protected by the Copyright Act 1968.
> >
> > It is not fair or kind to Kevork to use his Edulist to share
> > copyrighted
> material.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Moderator Mark
> >
> >
> > *Kevork - please send badge.
> >
>
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