Onya Ros .. web accounts like Gmail are certainly the way to go! As a rule I leave email by my department of education employer alone for official e-mail from them. It saves getting distracted by the more readable and engaging stuff that happens here. ;-)<br>
<br>I have even been doing a lot of document collaboration and sharing with the Google Docs tool. It was fun working together on the same document to develop a list of software to include on our new iMac computers. As quickly as I was bashing together the list on my laptop in one room, the typos were being fixed by somebody else in another and my technician was downloading the apps in the file server room. Tonight we used the google calendar to organise some adhoc meetings of our technical staff and apprentices before the end of the term break. With Firefox GoogleGears, much of this can be locally cached so I can access and edit files offline :-)<br>
<br>Some of the teachers that have left working for DEECD and our school have asked for a way to backup their old mail before their work account dies. We now create a gmail account, move across all their old mail and give them the keys. It is easy to configure these accounts so that you can take on the identify of another e-mail account when authoring a message.<br>
<br>Regards Roland<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/3/24 Ros Meadows <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ros.meadows@gmail.com">ros.meadows@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<font face="Calibri">OOps here's the screen shot attachment - a senile
or blond moment - take your pick!!</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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Ros Meadows wrote:
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<font face="Calibri">I don't mind your posts Stephen, sometimes I
delete, sometimes I keep.<br>
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I think a big problem for some members of these lists may be that they
use their main school email to receive the mail from a number of lists
and it does tend to get a bit overwhelming at times, and clog up your
inbox.<br>
<br>
To overcome this problem I initially used filters in Outlook which sent
emails from each list straight into their own folder (so I had a 7-10
IT folder etc), but in the end I decided to create a new gmail which I
only use for edulists (<a href="mailto:ros.meadows@gmail.com" target="_blank">ros.meadows@gmail.com</a>)<br>
<br>
But that became painful as I have 4 gmail accounts (one for serious
personal stuff eg my banks, one for fun personal stuff eg facebook, one
for when I want to register accounts on unknown websites and another
for edulists) and </font><font face="Calibri">to log onto 4 gmail
accounts and remember all the passwords became rather boring. It also
meant if I wanted to quickly find an email I had to log onto gmail
remember which account /password it is in etc <br>
<br>
</font><font face="Calibri">Then I discovered Thunderbird - my 4
gmail
accounts are now all collected and kept locally where I can delete to
my hearts content, knowing that the original will always be on gmail -
and each gmail has a storage of about 7 GB (so I have 28 GB of email
storage!)<br>
<br>
I have attached a screen shot and can thoroughly recommend Thunderbird
<a href="http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/" target="_blank">http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/</a>
<br>
<br>
PS my home account is with optusnet and I am eventually converting all
those legitimate senders who email me at that addy to my gmail accounts
(I get over 500 spam emails per month via optusnet!!) This also means
if I change ISP's at some future date I can do so without worrying
about incoming mail bouncing back to the sender (except for the spam of
course!!)<br>
<br>
Gmail + Thunderbird = way to go!!<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Ros Meadows<br>
Bentleigh SC<br>
<br>
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<pre>Although I do enjoy your frequent posts of the topics you find,
I tend to think that perhaps the OT list may be a better place
for the posts. Cheers Kent.
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<pre>Thanks for your opinion, Kent.
So, then, perhaps you, and any other interested list subscribers, could
advise what IT related topic IS off-topic to this Yr7-10 Info Tech list?
Seems this may be one core issue. I know of no guidelines for this list,
and unlike say Sofdev/English lists which revolve around a set syllabus,
what IT related topics are 'off-topic' for Yr7-10 IT?
I take the view that ANY exciting new Info Tech application, which is
likely to interest kids, is useful for classes. And new electric cars,
which download videos, and upload data regards being stolen .. *whilst
being charged over your normal power lines, with NO other connections*
and almost certain to hit Aussie streets within 2 years, to be of quite
some interest, one may think, for practically any info tech class. Yes?
Imho kids just looove that sort of IT stuff. Interesting, brand new and
'space agey' haha. I don't work full time, and, have time to find such
nuggets. I'm guessing perhaps others don't. So i share with colleagues
whilst at the same time, thinking to build this on-line 7-10 community.
So, if i'm wrong in helping like this, perhaps you might like to steer
me to a definition of what exactly IS off-topic for year 7-10 infotech?
If it's IT, and new and exciting, a brief mention, together with class
discussion of associated info tech principles, makes IT classes buzz :)
The seven *lovely* emails received privately re this do certainly seem
to agree that a 'widely-based' IT approach, catering to kid's interests
and, certainly their own immediate future regarding InfoTech, is right.
On the other hand, the off-topic list, which is the off-topic list for
all your edulist lists, (eg, English, Lit etc etc) will be bored by IT
for the most part. (gasp!) So, in a sense, offtopic is offtopic to it?
So my question is, how does one define 'off-topic' for our 7-10 IT list?
Cheers people
Stephen Loosley
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<pre>Ta Stephen. This is fascinating. So it does seem quite probable that
we will soon have a chain of Energy Stations (aka petrol stations) to
power cars, with many other benefits as well. Eg, swap your car's
batteries in 3 minutes (or we recharge it over a smart grid) and at
the same time download a video into the car for the kids, and disable
a stolen car from being recharged. They say the electricity would cost
around one seventh of petrol, for the same distance, and all this with
zero emissions in Australia (solar/wind power arrangements locked in).
I'm not surprised that BetterPlace note, "We raised $200 million in a
seed round, the largest seed round of any startup in history. We
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<pre>a $135 million a week ago in Denmark to put the network in Denmark. So
this is actually getting a lot of support, and a lot of funding."
In Australia, they note, "Better Place has partnered with AGL Energy,
which has Australia's largest portfolio of privately-owned renewable
generation, and Macquarie, well known for making infrastructure
investments around the globe. AGL will provide all of the renewable
energy-from wind and other sources-needed to power the electric
vehicles, and work with Better Place to optimize the network.
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<pre>will provide financial advice to help raise AUD $1 billion for the
initial network build." Only problem, as yet it will be a Renault :)
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<pre>Yes indeed Pauline. And apparently powering Australia's cars this way
only adds 7 percent to the existing load on our power grid, and, this
should mostly be done at night, when no one wants the power from wind.
It all seems a win-win all round. Very peppy, and almost silent, cars
with zero emissions & utilizing eco-friendly batteries with no exotic
materials, so we just buy power they contain, and then give them back.
And as you say it seems very likely to go ahead for us here in Aussie.
However, I am sure that Renaults won't be the only cars available :-)
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Here is an **outstanding** movement regarding our world's
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<pre>And as of today, Australia is right up there at the world's
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<pre>For example: <a href="http://tiny.cc/GwSoi" target="_blank">http://tiny.cc/GwSoi</a> and
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<pre><a href="http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/" target="_blank">http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/</a>
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<pre>It's in regards to:
<a href="http://www.betterplace.com/" target="_blank">http://www.betterplace.com/</a>
<a href="http://www.betterplace.com/our-bold-plan/how-it-works/electric-car" target="_blank">http://www.betterplace.com/our-bold-plan/how-it-works/electric-car</a>
Note: if your system prefers, <a href="http://tiny.cc/GwSoi" target="_blank">http://tiny.cc/GwSoi</a> is also known as:
<a href="http://www.cnet.com.au/cartech/cars/0,2000438541,339294851,00.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cnet.com.au/cartech/cars/0,2000438541,339294851,00.htm</a>?
feed=pt_better_place
And, at this site, you may be delighted at the 'goodness' of this
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<pre><a href="http://www.greenlivingpedia.org/Australian_electric_car_network" target="_blank">www.greenlivingpedia.org/Australian_electric_car_network</a>
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<pre>Good luck, BetterPlace.com, and Evan Thornley, the planet needs you.
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<pre>Cheers Pauline
Stephen Loosley
Victoria Australia
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