with etoys / squeak you would have:<br><ul><li>alice, which is built in</li><li>etoys, visual drag and drop </li><li>smalltalk, fully fledged OOPs</li><li>also its going out on the OLPC (one laptop per child)<br></li></ul>
I wrote an article comparing game maker with etoys / squeak here:<br><a href="http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2007/04/comparing-game-maker-with-etoys-squeak.html">http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2007/04/comparing-game-maker-with-etoys-squeak.html
</a><br><br>-- <br>Bill Kerr<br><a href="http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/">http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/</a><br><a href="http://www.users.on.net/~billkerr/">http://www.users.on.net/~billkerr/</a><br>skype: billkerr2006<br>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dr Paul Chandler</b> <<a href="mailto:paul.chandler@yvg.vic.edu.au">paul.chandler@yvg.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Wow. What a discussion. Add Alice to the list (<a href="http://www.alice.org">www.alice.org</a>).<br><br>In wonder whether we need a "series" of articles perhaps for "Infonet"<br>extolling the success stories and key features of a range of alternate
<br>programming environments; also published to a Web site for reference??<br><br>Any takers?<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
<br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au">yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Tony Forster<br>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:57 AM<br>To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
<br>Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] Visual Basic resources<br><br>When you have caught a good wave you should stay on it for the ride.<br>Here is a student who has used Game Maker and is looking for harder<br>challenges.<br>Maybe the student is ready for real 3D games in C
<br><a href="http://www.flightgear.org/">http://www.flightgear.org/</a> open source flight simulator<br><a href="http://cube-osx.sourceforge.net/">http://cube-osx.sourceforge.net/</a> cube_2004_05_22.tar.gz open source Doom
<br>style, platform independant but will compile with Visual studio<br><a href="http://www.garagegames.com/mg/projects/tge/">http://www.garagegames.com/mg/projects/tge/</a> Torque Game Engine SDK Full<br><br>C++ source code to the engine $100.00 USD Windows, Macintosh, Linux
<br><br>Tony Forster,<br><a href="http://schoolgamemaker.rupert.id.au/">http://schoolgamemaker.rupert.id.au/</a><br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Russell Edwards" <<a href="mailto:edwards.russell.t@edumail.vic.gov.au">
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<br>Subject: [Yr7-10it] Visual Basic resources<br><br><br>> Hi,<br>><br>> can anybody recommend some good beginner's visual basic resources<br>for an<br>> advanced year 9 student? There is a huge amount on the web but it's
<br><br>> hard to find good ones. I need something as engaging as possible<br>because<br>> this student thinks GameMaker is "booorrring" ;-) and will be<br>finished<br>> the GM modules I've prepared quite soon.
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