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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for all your great feedback!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have also discovered a program called &#8216;Sludge&#8217;
for creating simple RPGs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="http://www.hungrysoftware.com/">http://www.hungrysoftware.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>thanks again!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=navy face="Script MT Bold"><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold";color:navy'>Paul
Sijpkes<br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>VET Coordinator<br>
</span></font><strong><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
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</span></font></b><b><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Independent
Co-educational International<br>
</span></font></b><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Wantirna South VIC 3152<br>
Phone: +61 3 9801 9233 <br>
Fax: +61 3 9887 1850<br>
Website: </span></font><font color=navy><span lang=EN-AU style='color:navy'><a
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href="http://www.knox.vic.edu.aucricos/">www.knox.vic.edu.au</a><br>
CRICOS Provider No: 00151G ABN: 16 095 158 222</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Peter Ruwoldt<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 May 2007 5:24 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Yr7-10it]
programming curriculum</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 14/05/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Paul
Sijpkes</span></b> &lt;<a href="mailto:paul.sijpkes@aanet.com.au">paul.sijpkes@aanet.com.au</a>&gt;
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Good evening list,<br>
<br>
I am in the process of developing a curriculum for a Year 10 elective in<br>
programming.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have done some initial research and found that there
is an<br>
enormous range of options from the more popular products eg. Gamemaker and <br>
Visual Basic to Python, Ruby, BlueJ, Robocode (very cool!) to just scratch<br>
the surface.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Great idea. Use 'Scratch'. Absoutely perfect. <a href="http://scratch.mit.edu/">http://scratch.mit.edu/
</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I believe that a good grounding in Java or a C based language is
probably<br>
beneficial but I don't want to overwhelm the students with an overly<br>
technical approach.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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You're right.&nbsp; Scratch could be the fun way to provide an excellent
grounding.&nbsp; It is also freely available. <br>
<a
href="http://waraku.blogspot.com/2007/03/scratch-mobile-phones-and-podmo.html">http://waraku.blogspot.com/2007/03/scratch-mobile-phones-and-podmo.html</a><br>
<br>
Here are some other links relating to Scratch<br>
<a href="http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_icio_us&amp;p=scratch&amp;type=user">http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_icio_us&amp;p=scratch&amp;type=user</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Then again, I don't want
them to be purely based in <br>
Microsoft products and GUI development.<br>
<br>
Could anyone else share their ideas and experiences in what works and what<br>
doesn't?&nbsp;&nbsp;Your wisdom and feedback is much appreciated!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Paul Sijpkes <br>
The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Knox</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">School</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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