[Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices

Tue Feb 7 07:31:47 EST 2012

Hi Paul,

 Yes, a new role but still teaching Software Development in the mainstream.
I do like the sound of your project on 'better teaching'. We are working on
a number of continuous professional learning delivery programs for the year
including creation of games and apps for mobile device deployable across
multiple platforms with cross compilers. 

 I do think Greg is on the right track. I am on Android (but will get an
ipad soon). A number of Apps I tried save files to a folder on the SD card
under the app name. Using a file manager like ES File explorer I can search
for any file, share through a large number of ways such as Box.net ,
Bluetooth, Gmail etc. I can also collect files from a LAN (samba server),
FTP or Secure FTP, Bluetooth and the internet  (DropBox , Box.Net ). Quite
impressive.

Over to my ipad friends for your options. 

Equally relevant. Given 2 solutions, one being a web driven one , the other
writing an app, which is the more universally useful and practical ? Web has
instant clients in browsers on all connected devices ( apart from access to
filesystems on some devices ), and writing apps is quite a job if developing
in multiple platforms , multiple languages. What do people think ?

Speak soon

Kevork Krozian
Edulists Creator Administrator
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[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Chandler
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 4:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices

Hi Kevork,

New job for you (pathways manager)?  My position is still a bit fluid for
this year (and beyond), but working on a project supporting 'better
teaching' at Melb Uni Education in semester 1.

The issue is exactly the one of sandboxed apps - particularly the iWork
suite.  Dropbox works find for viewing apps created somewhere else, but if
you're actually going to work on the file - or create it - on the idevice,
then that's problematic, unless its an image.  I struck this with my son's
ipad last year - how do you back up the critter when iTunes is
misbehaving?!  We tried all manner of things including dropbox, but they
were not bidirectional.  Then I found a simple webdav server, and it runs
on the home PC, and backup is easy.  So I'm very familiar with the
sandboxing problem/architecture.

Which doesn't really help what my colleague here at Melb. wants to do -
which is facilitating collaboration amongst pre-service teachers using
multi-way file-sharing; and of course it shouldn't matter whether they have
an idevice or an android or whatever.  Nor can we rely on the university
actually having ports open.

I came across this app called "webdav navigator" which is cross-platform,
webdav or bluetooth - and which seems to fill the requirements.  I was
really posting just to check if there's an error in my logic or if I've not
encountered the "magic app" which 'everyone' is using.

Seems that my thinking is on the right track.  Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

On 6 February 2012 15:04, Kevork KROZIAN
<kkrozian at ringwoodsc.vic.edu.au>wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
>  It is more to do with the way apps are written and the nature of the
> device is it not  ? One of the early concerns with iPads was how do we get
> files on and off ?
>
> Android allows access to a range of storage options
> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html including
external HDD and network drives. My yahoo mail app on my android
> phone allows attachments to be added from the SD card for example as well
> as external USB HDD.
> I am not using iphones or ipads but I know dropbox is the preferred method
> of sharing files. However, when collecting from dropbox the file type
> downloaded is matched up or checked for compatibility with the apps that
> will be able to use it and loaded into the app chosen from that selection.
> Incidentally, I heard only last week that dropbox is not allowed in some
> education jurisdictions like WA.  I don't know as to why that is.
> Many apps seem to have access only to a "sandboxed" memory space where
> only files created by the app is available to that app.
> I expect you are looking for something more than a Bluetooth type wireless
> connection ??
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Kevork Krozian
> IT Pathways Manager
> Ringwood Trade Training Facility
> Tel: 0419 356 034
>
>
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> Definately.  I like dropbox.  I was hoping to identify something which
> would simply require a local LAN, and not require full connectivity to the
> internet.  (Working within a university context does not guarantee
> open-slather connectivity)
>
> On 6 February 2012 13:55, Tim Kitchen <tkitchen at strathcona.vic.edu.au
> >wrote:
>
> > Dropbox works well for us
> >
> > http://www.dropbox.com/
> >
> > Ta
> >
> > Tim Kitchen
> > Strathcona
> >
> >
> > On 06/02/2012, at 1:24 PM, Paul Chandler wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Has anyone had experience with students transferring files (eg
> > > images, as part of a classroom activity) between mobile devices (ie
> > > among ipads,
> > ipods
> > > or android phones)?
> > >
> > > Initial investigation suggests that a little multi-platform product
> > called
> > > "WebDav Navigator" might be a way to go, but interested in other's
> > thoughts.
> > >
> > > Regards,
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