[Yr7-10it] RE: currency?

Fawcett - Le Rossignol, Jamie E fawcettlerossignol.jamie.e at edumail.vic.gov.au
Thu Mar 12 12:11:17 EST 2009


This principles and theory I learned year back are still good.  I'm just
getting tied of learning another app every year, and been expected to be
a master of it.  I'd expect it to be the some with most of you.  I've
enjoyed learning Flash & Dreamweaver, and really wish I had the time to
play with those tools.
 
I am use to the technical hurdle to be able to use software, but most
are not.  The only scale-able PD I could easily see happening would be
with very simple technology.   Simple in very easy to use and
understand.  Like audacity for example, which looks and acts just like
an old tape deck, and for those enthusiastic staff there are advance
functions to get more out of it.
 
Jamie
 
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[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:46 AM
To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: currency?


Yep, I concur with you Ros about the updating and how it is perceived by
other KLA's. I too am a qual'd maths teacher (but not with any maths
load this year), so I understand about the discussion on 'change'. 
We are currently undergoing the planning paperwork thing this year...oh,
the joys!  As if staying current wasnt enough, now i must actually
'plan' for it.
 
ah, well, such is etc..
 
Kent.
 
Kent Beveridge,
I.C.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
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From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Ros Meadows
Sent: Wed 3/11/2009 8:44 PM
To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] Tools for Interactivity (Was: Missed the boat?)


Yes Ken - I really believe that the staff at my school perhaps think I
just absorb my skills and knowledge by osmosis or some other mystic
transference process every time I boot up my computer! Little do they
realise how much time we spend keeping up to date! Yet in the past when
I have offered to give an ICT session at lunchtime or after school only
2 or 3 staff will turn up (and they are usually the "converted")!
Give me an English novel to read any day! Although I must say I doubt I
could cope with trying to read students' essays on the novel!!! 
Cheers
Ros

ken price wrote: 

	The task of remaining current with ICT is a massive issue. I've
been both a Mathematics teacher and a Computing teacher and you are most
certainly correct as far as content is concerned. 90% of school maths
content is the same as it was 40 years ago - and a quick look at
textbooks will verify that (pedagogy however has changed significantly
though). Computing content has a very short half-life.
	 
	Some time back we changed the mandated programming language in
one IT subject from Pascal to Java, One of my colleagues in another
school asked their principal for some time to learn this language and
update their notes, assignments etc. The response was "I used to teach
English and we had a new novel every year. What's so hard about changing
a computer language?"
	 
	And it was said in all seriousness. 
	 
	The nature of ICT and the workload in remaining current is not
well-understood by most people outside of it. Some people find even a
change of web browser challenging, but at a deeper level of study the
change is much more demanding of course. The most successful PD models I
have seen rely heavily on the generosity of the teachers involved and
their willingness to go beyond the minimum. This is of course impossible
to mandate across the board.  It isn't always about sending people to
training, though that has its place.
	 
	Any suggestions on workable models for PD in the use of ICT
tools generally, or the ones discussed here specifically? (workable =
able to be scaled to all staff, not just the enthusiastic.)
	 
	Ken, TASITE Tasmania
	
	 
	On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Bane, Janet A
<bane.janet.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
	


		I often think I should have been a maths teacher -
algebra and trigonometry probably haven't changed much in the past few
decades (sorry to any maths teacher if I have offended you), but if you
think of the giant strides made in the field of computers and ICT, its
no wonder schools can't keep pace.
		
		

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