[Yr7-10it] VELS and IT

Thu Jun 8 14:58:15 EST 2006

I totally agree Andrew. It is ongoing just as assessment, growth, and
learning is ongoing 'til the day we die.

Gordon Gunn
Mount Waverley Secondary College

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From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Andrew Grimshaw
Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 2:47 PM
To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] VELS and IT

I think that people are missing the point about Powerpoint and Word

These are both powerful tools that need to be taught all the way from prep 
to year 12  - I am a supposed expert but i certainly dont know everything 
that these applications can do

It is silly to way "ok we taught Powerpoint in grade 2, so the students dont

need to be taught it anymore"

I still teach asepects of them all the way through from year 7-12 - (in an 
applied way of course!)

-andrew grimshaw
colac college

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mclean, Rachelle L" <Mclean.Rachelle.L at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Newsgroups: local.it.yr7-10it
To: "Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List" 
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] VELS and IT

>I would still think that Word and Powerpoint should be covered in depth
> in Primary school, so that you 7-10-ers could move onto more challenging
> stuff.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of
> fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au
> Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:54 PM
> To: yr7-10it at edulists.com.au
> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] VELS and IT
>
> Rachelle
>
> You would be amazed.  Many of the year 7's can type up a document and
> edit but they dont have more refined skills, especially those regarding
> page layout and the more complex options.
>
>
> "Mclean, Rachelle L" <Mclean.Rachelle.L at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Thu, 8
> Jun 2006 12:42:28 +1000 wrote:
>> Although Fiona, I can't understand why the vast majority of students
>> wouldn't already know how to use Word at year 7 when I am teaching it
> to
>> my grade preps and 1s.
>>
>> Rachelle McLean
>> Pakenham Hills Primary School
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of
>> fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au
>> Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:13 PM
>> To: yr7-10it at edulists.com.au
>> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] VELS and IT
>>
>> I think this is what much of the discussion has been about Debra,
> namely
>> that IT is not being seen as a discrete subject but to be taught as
> part
>> of another subject.  If I was your elearning co-ord I would go back
> and
>> tell them to go away (or words to that effect) and then offer pd in
> what
>> skills they would like to see utilised (as opposed to taught) during a
>> particular semester e.g semester 1, English, year 7 - focus on
> microsoft
>> word and basic editing and formatting and this would coincide with the
>> year 7 being taught the correct skills in an IT class.
>>
>> If you dont discriminate between the subjects then the English class
>> will be spent teaching IT skills and, you then have to ask the all
>> important question - what are the English teacher's IT skills like -
>> does he/she know what tabs are? can she change the rulers using the
> side
>> margins on the screen? Can he/she explain how the school server works
>> and how to save corrently. Now I am going to make a statement
> regarding
>> English teachers that will probably get me hung, and to all those
>> computer literate English teachers out there I humbly apologise but,
> in
>> my experience, the English teachers have been the ones who have had
> the
>> most difficulty coming to terms with new technology!
>>
>> Fiona Bain
>> LT Co-ordinator
>>
>>
>> "McDonald, Debra A1" <mcdonald.debra.a1 at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Thu, 8
>> Jun 2006 11:43:51 +1000 wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I may be on the outer her as it has been a while since I have read
> the
>> emails regarding VEL's as I wanted to do so at my leisure instead of
>> between classes, but at out school the eLearning coordinator is
>> apparently going to hold compulsory PD's that will instruct staff
>> (separate PD's for each subject area) what skills they need to be
>> teaching each semester and how to do this. now I have no idea on how
> she
>> is planning to do this and I think that in time she will let us know
> as
>> I will be having to assist her in instructing the school in part of
> this
>> because she is not totally proficient in all area's of IT (mainly the
>> basics).
>> >
>> > what are you guys doing in the PD scheme of things for next year??
> and
>> how are you running it?
>> >
>> > would love to here what is going on out there.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > Debra McDonald
>> > Network Manager
>> > Lyndhurst Secondary College
>> > Cranbourne
>> > (03) 5996 0144
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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