Personal experience. Don't have empirical evidence, but yesterday I thought of asking the techs to measure it so I can make a case to DEECD. Surely Netspace must have a minimum performance level in their contract...<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 July 2012 19:48, Hutchison, Geoffrey G <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Have you tested it, or is it what the techs are saying?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 July 2012 5:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] U2O1- suggestions for next task with slow internet?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">'cos the off peak bandwidth is still bad ...
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 18 July 2012 15:01, Hutchison, Geoffrey G <<a href="mailto:hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">hutchison.geoffrey.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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the feeder tollway (!) there are a zillion cars between 9 and 3.30. Outside those hours, very few cars on the tollway or local street.</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Which begs the question, Mark: why aren't your techies doing their downloads outside
of school hours?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 July 2012 2:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] U2O1- suggestions for next task with slow internet?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, the department gives us a 100Mbps pipeline, and our service provider gives us a trickle of data along it.<br>
It's like being given a new 8 lane freeway and a mule to use on it. <br>
We alleviate things by having an ADSL connection to a 'real' ISP for the techies to use for their BIG data transfers...<br>
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It's a shame that many of these good data sources can't be downloaded or even cached.
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Maybe try to find a data source which you can store locally?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 18 July 2012 12:45, Esther Andrews <<a href="mailto:ANDREWS.Esther@bssc.edu.au" target="_blank">ANDREWS.Esther@bssc.edu.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Our school joined the Department’s internet portal (terminology?) at the start of this year. I am
finding it is too slow for students to do research. This Outcome 1 requires students to “select appropriate sources of data and identify relevant data”. Last year I gave them a list of websites that contained a range of datasets and asked them to select their
data. Our web access is so slow I don’t think I can do that this year.</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Has slow web access been an issue for any of you in government schools?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If so, how are you addressing this? Are you providing the students with the datasets?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(I really don’t want to do this, but the situation here is intolerable!!)</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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