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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do not agree with you or Natalie about the possibility of students having any real advantages because firstly the examples in the Study Design are INCOMPLETE and only a sample, not the full SAC. It has great potentials to be developed into a real SAC, using different data sets and even different scenarios so I believe writing SAC&#8217;s based on the study design should be a good thing because at least it&#8217;s on the right track.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If a student goes through the trouble of reading and comprehending the study design and masters the skills that is required in the SAC&#8217;s, then they deserve to do well. I have never heard of any student capable of achieving that standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dinh Tran<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February 2011 8:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>No Natalie, please come back from under the basalt.&nbsp; All contributions are valued here.&nbsp; <br><br>You do have a good point when it comes to kids getting real SACs and getting an unfair advantage, which is why the ITA list is careful about teachers uploading SACs to the public.&nbsp; You never know where they might end up.<br><br>Keep on posting!<br><br>Regards<br>Mark <br><br><br>On 11 February 2011 19:38, Natalie H &lt;<a href="mailto:natinga71@yahoo.com">natinga71@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>That's a bloody good point!! *hides back under her rock*<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>:-P<br>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Natalie Heath<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mark KELLY &lt;<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><b>To:</b> Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">yr11it@edulists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