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Kevork &amp; Litsa,</SPAN></B></DIV></DIV>
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      just read the last few posts. (thnx for the kind words Litsa!) To help 
      answer some of your Qs, Kevork, it's my 1st year as eLearning Cooordinator 
      @ MSJ (where Litsa is) and I've taken the "stepwise refinement 
      process".</SPAN></DIV>
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      reason being that it allows for the naturally occuring organic growth of 
      the curriculum to continue to develop along side the evolving 
      technological advances.&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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      deconstruct and reconstruct courses is difficult enough for teachers, in 
      my opinion, without the added pressure of having to "add" an ICT element. 
      The approach of "adding" ICT to a course also tends to trivialise ICT and 
      cause it to be percieved as a seperate and novel addition to any course, 
      rather than a truly integrated and living organ within the 
      curriculum.</SPAN></DIV>
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      "stepwise"<SPAN class=Apple-style-span 
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      also allows teachers to take ownership of the changes in 'their' course. 
      Ownership of any change to a course is much more permanent than any change 
      that is percieved as forced and laboured.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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      major part of my job, as I see it, is to assist in promoting ideas. I help 
      teachers see<SPAN class=Apple-style-span 
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      technogies may assist them in their particular course. I show them things 
      that might help achieve the goals they already have, that will engage 
      students and save both parties time and I assist the teacher in ther 
      ability and confidence in using that 
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      isn't easy, independantly:</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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      &nbsp; &nbsp;<SPAN class=Apple-style-span 
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      identify new and emerging computer based learning technologies capable of 
      enhancing the quality of the educational program and outcomes for all 
      students in the College ".</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><SPAN 
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      I don't! :) I do it in consultation with the teacher who is the expert in 
      their area. I give an idea or two, WE try it out with as much support from 
      me as possible, and we refine it wherever needed. When it's successful 
      (and it isn't always) it creates a buzz around that faculty and (fingers 
      crossed!) &nbsp;eventually permiates throughout the school. A few 
      successes and a ripple turns into a wave.</SPAN>
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      see this approach as only one key strategy in the process of changing the 
      way teahers have done things for hundreds of years.&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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      key strategies/ingredients include:</SPAN>
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      loads of promotion of success stories (especially if local)</SPAN></DIV>
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      keeping staff aware of changes in the culture of the planet (like the 
      stuff that allows me to be typing this out on my iPhone whilst I watch 
      NCIS in my PJ's)</SPAN></DIV>
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      and the eLearming Coordinator REALLY needs the support of a forward 
      thinking principal and leadership team</SPAN></DIV>
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      as well as an ICT Dept that supports the trial of new 
      technologies.</SPAN></DIV>
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      do have a great mix and I'm in an awesome position at MSJ. Most staff 
      members are also very supportive and want to learn. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
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      <DIV>I hope that helps! :)</DIV>
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      <DIV>Raymond Nashar</DIV>
      <DIV>eLearning Coordinator</DIV>
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      <DIV>Mount Saint Joseph Girls' College</DIV>
      <DIV>133 Maidstone Street</DIV>
      <DIV>Altona, Victoria, Australia 3018</DIV>
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      <DIV>NOTE: Plz 4giv shrthnd coz email sent from my iPhone</DIV></DIV>
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        Krozian)</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>----------------------------------------------------------------------</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Message: 
        1</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:38:32 
        +1100</SPAN><BR><SPAN>From: "Kevork Krozian" &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</A></A>&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Subject: 
        Re: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN>To: 
        "VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List" &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au">vet-mm@edulists.com.au</A></A>&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Message-ID: 
        &lt;0F1E7252150945EC8964156EAB9ECA6C@NOTEBOOKKRO&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Content-Type: 
        text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Hi 
        Litsa,</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;It sounds like you have a 
        truly integrated team working very well together rather than pushing the 
        elearning person out the front to do it all. I think that is the key and 
        the balance sounds spot on at your school. It was presumptuous of me to 
        assume otherwise .. sorry ...:))</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Thanks again for 
        sharing the job description.</SPAN><BR><SPAN>I do have a question about 
        the journey from the inception of the elearning job to the present. Was 
        it necessary to deconstruct and reconstruct the curriculum in each area 
        or was it a stepwise refinement process to move towards the embedding of 
        learning technologies ? </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Thanks 
        again</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Kevork Krozian</SPAN><BR><SPAN><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</A></A></SPAN><BR><SPAN><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"></A><A 
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        0419 356 034</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;----- Original Message ----- 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;From: Litsa Tzelepis </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;To: 
        VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Sent: 
        Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:06 PM</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Subject: Re: 
        [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do 
        ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Hello 
        Kevork,</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;I totally 
        understand.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;As far as I know 
        though, our e-learning co-ordinator regularly liaises with faculty 
        convenors and the director learning and teaching, as well as teaching 
        staff along the way, to help keep up with the whole technology 
        extravaganza. It is a massive job if its done properly. Our e-learning 
        person is so switched on; calm, approachable and highly qualfied to 
        guide the rest of us. He does a marvelous job. But I get what you're 
        saying.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Litsa 
        {:-)</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;----- 
        Original Message ----- </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: Kevork 
        Krozian </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: VET Multimedia Teachers' 
        Mailing List </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: Monday, November 
        02, 2009 10:50 PM</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: Re: 
        [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do 
        ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi 
        Litsa,</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I 
        do worry about some of these statements in the job descriptions. Eg. 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"To identify new and emerging 
        computer based learning technologies capable of enhancing the quality of 
        the educational program and outcomes for all students in the College 
        ".</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Am I missing 
        something here ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The 
        poor elearning coordinator has to identify what emerging technologies 
        will enhance the educational programs of ALL 
        students:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1. Integral 
        calculus in maths</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2. 
        Appreciation of art </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3. 
        Robotics programming</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4. 
        English literacy</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;5. 
        Analysis of geographical features in landscapes and satellite 
        data</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6. CAD/CAM in 
        technology</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;should 
        I go on ? </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Can such a person ever be 
        qualified to identify such emerging technologies in ALL educational 
        programs ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Frankly whoever writes 
        these job descriptions does not understand what an elearning coordinator 
        can and can't do. As long as the word embed is in the statement somehow 
        it makes it ok.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is 
        the job of the learning area manager and level manager (VELS speak) to 
        identify the technology and then ask the elearning coordinator to assist 
        with its implementation, staff PD and monitoring of uptake. The 
        elearning coordinator has to understand the network, how software can be 
        deployed and how it can be used and applied. If he or she does not then 
        it is best to just let the network manager do this part of the 
        job.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Some 
        controversial statements or really a statement of how things can work 
        efficiently with true successful outcomes 
        ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Happy to discuss 
        and expand. </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Best 
        Wishes</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kevork 
        Krozian</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A 
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        0419 356 034</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;----- 
        Original Message ----- 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: Litsa Tzelepis 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: VET Multimedia 
        Teachers' Mailing List 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: Monday, November 
        02, 2009 9:32 PM</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: 
        Re: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do 
        ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hello 
        Paul,</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;here 
        is our role description for our e-learning 
        co-ordinator.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hope 
        it helps, Litsa 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;----- 
        Original Message ----- 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: <A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au">mppascoe@tpg.com.au</A></A> 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: <A 
        href="mailto:Yr7-10it@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:Yr7-10it@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:Yr7-10it@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:Yr7-10it@edulists.com.au">Yr7-10it@edulists.com.au</A></A> 
        ; <A href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">yr11it@edulists.com.au</A></A> ; <A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au">vet-mm@edulists.com.au</A></A> 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: Monday, 
        November 02, 2009 6:59 
        PM</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: 
        [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do 
        ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi 
        everyone, 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sorry 
        for any cross posts and being off topic perhaps, but: 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My 
        school is creating a new position for an "e-learning coordinator" for 
        next year. 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Just 
        out of interest, what do existing e-learning coordinators do in other 
        schools ? 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Run 
        the moodle, and school website, organize ICT PD for staff on podcasting, 
        vodcasting, and other things, Review software and technology, formulate 
        strategic plans, team-teach helping teachers out with software and 
        technology, and 
        ??????</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks, 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul 
        Pascoe 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;St 
        Francis Xavier College Berwick 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:mppascoe@tpg.com.au">mppascoe@tpg.com.au</A></A> 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A 
        href="http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/"></A><A 
        href="http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/"></A><A 
        href="http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/"><A 
        href="http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/">http://passyworldofict.blogspot.com/</A></A> 
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        2</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:35:02 
        +1100</SPAN><BR><SPAN>From: "Kevork Krozian" &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</A></A>&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Subject: 
        Re: [vet-mm] What do e-learning coordinators do ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN>To: 
        "VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List" &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:vet-mm@edulists.com.au">vet-mm@edulists.com.au</A></A>&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Cc: 
        <A href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au">elearning@edulists.com.au</A></A></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Message-ID: 
        &lt;3E25844DFB744C96B8629AEBF5DF513B@NOTEBOOKKRO&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Content-Type: 
        text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Hi 
        again folks,</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Following from 
        &nbsp;thread recently begun on the vet mm list I have cross posted to 
        the elearning list and have set up a wiki at <A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</A></A> to assist 
        in the tasks an elearning manager performs by adding categories for 
        "Action Plan timeline" , " elearning hardware and software by KLA and 
        VELS level" and any others we think we need.</SPAN><BR><SPAN>The link is 
        at <A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning"></A><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning"></A><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning"><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning">http://www.edulists.com.au/dokuwiki/embedding_elearning</A></A> 
        or through the Edulists Wiki index item embedding _elearning 
        .</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Anyone can contribute. It takes a few 
        seconds to set up an account if you don't have one. I have started off 
        the wiki and would love everyone else to join in and build it up 
        .</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Any queries feel free to contact 
        me</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>With 
        thanks</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Kevork 
        Krozian</SPAN><BR><SPAN><A href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</A></A></SPAN><BR><SPAN><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</A></A></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Tel: 
        0419 356 034</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;----- Original Message ----- 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;From: Kevork Krozian </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;To: 
        <A href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"></A><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au"><A 
        href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au">elearning@edulists.com.au</A></A> 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Cc: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List 
        </SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:51 
        AM</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Subject: [vet-mm] What do e-learning 
        coordinators do 
        ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Hi 
        Folks,</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;A cross post as this 
        was originally a request on the vet multimedia 
        list.</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Just wondering if people would be happy to 
        post their job descriptions in the elearning 
        manager/director/coordinator job.</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Also, at what 
        level of responsibility and time allowance is this job or its equivalent 
        being done ?</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Take 
        Care</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;Kevork Krozian</SPAN><BR><SPAN>&nbsp;<A 
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