[vet-mm] 2D animation

claire at warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au claire at warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au
Fri Aug 30 09:20:19 EST 2013

I agree Michelle. Many issues of teacher development, student training,
resourcing, especially as schools grapple with 1:1, BYOD and  lack of


In the Range statement section of the 2D animation unit (CUFANM301A ) it

Animation software may include: 

. Director 

. Flash 

. Toon Boon Studio.


Output formats may include: 



. GIF 



So given "may include" is only a suggestion, the training package doesn't
actually mandate the software.


The software definitely flows thru from the VCAA exam requirements. 

Imagine you trained your kids in Toon Boon Studio (whatever that is?) and
then the kids fronted up to the exam only to discover they had to do an
animation using software they'd never seen before.

(there must be a VCAA policy on this, but it would be my worst nightmare)

Does anyone know the latest state of play with our rapidly aging training
package (let's face it, in our area,  the document is dating before it even
gets published!!)

Given the likelihood of a new government, where is vocational education, in
general, heading?


OMG - too much to think about on a Friday J




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Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 10:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [vet-mm] 2D animation


The training package might not specify Adobe Flash, but the VCE Examination
has a practical Flash component.  So, yes, as things stand students must
learn Adobe Flash.  



I personally would love to see IDM move from Adobe Flash to After Effects,
which offers more creative options when it comes to 2D animation.  However,
there would have to be at least a two year lead time to train Unit 1&2
students in the program and it introduces an equity problem as it could be
argued that After Effects requires higher spec desktops.  After all, I think
this is the first year the VCAA said that they wouldn't allow Director (at




Michelle Dennis

eLearning Manager

Mentone Girls' Grammar School



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Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 9:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [vet-mm] 2D animation

hi Claire 

if the 2d animation can be done in something other than flash and flash is
not mandated ....??


have you checked the VCAA prescriptions to see if Flash is mandated in
there? perhaps also past copies of the VCAA Bulletin? also check exam
requirements as posted in Bulletin.


if it is not prescribed software then...


it is certainly no longer industry standard with HTML5 out in the wild and
also the iPad not playing with it. I notice there are more tablets coming on
the market that dont do flash either.


however -- what is the industry standard now...  and how do we get teachers
up to speed quickly ... because the depth of knowledge and expertise about
Flash amongst teachers is immense


I recall when we put together the study from the training package that we
focussed on industry standard but I do not recall specifying actual software
or platforms. (Maybe we did ?)


maybe it is time to look at updating the study ?

(where I now work does not offer IDM)




Andrew Shortell


CRC Melton




shortell at get2me.net (This List)

@acsbear8 (twitter)

VITTA <http://www.vitta.org.au/>  CoM Member





On 29/08/2013, at 3:36 PM, claire at warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au wrote:

Hi Jeanean,

You've raised a really interesting question.

In fact, the PixelEd committee was talking about this at our last meeting.

I think your kids are correct, it's obvious that Flash is on it's way out
and the industry has moved on.

The dilemma is that if students are aiming to maximise their study score,
they need to know Flash really well - it's the exam wagging the dog, so to


The training package doesn't mandate the software our kids use, so it's our
need to prepare for the exam that becomes a crucial factor.


I can imagine it would be difficult if you train kids in After Effects and
perhaps do the 3D elective in yr 11, and then in yr 12 have to "drag" them
back to stuff they find boring and irrelevant.


If the demand is there, PixelEd could consider running some After Effects
training for teachers - what do people think?




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Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 12:18 AM
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Subject: [vet-mm] 2D animation


Hello everyone,


I am interested to know what everyone is doing with 2D animation. My
students have been so anti-flash this year - not because they find it
difficult - they are finding it boring. Their interest seems to lay with
special effects/animation - ie after effects - and 3D animation. Is anyone
else finding a rapidly growing disinterest for Flash among students?


Jeanean Pritchard

Interactive Digital Media & Arts

Highview College

Maryborough Victoria 3465

jpritchard at highview.vic.edu.au


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