[vet-mm] Examiners Report 06

Sun Jul 15 17:54:43 EST 2007

Paul,
do you really think that VCAA and the people who write the exams are
going to tell the teachers what they can and can't do? My comment about
the questions being too hard for year 12 students doesn't imply that
there should be no scripting questions on the exam. Most teachers of the
CERT III in a high school are well aware that we can't go into too much
depth on the scripting - clearly the TAFE training package is unsuitable
for year 12's in a high school setting. I've said this to yourself and
to VCAA on many occasions (including formally in a letter after the
disastrous 2004 exam).  

Anyway, you've had experience with VCAA, surely you can comment on
whether they are able to alter the scripting component.  Are you also
implying that we haven't tried to find out? This is clearly not the case
for either myself or Pixeled who have spoken on many occasions to VCAA
representatives and voiced our concerns.  I don't appreciate your
comments about wasting our time - things can always be changed if people
are willing to listen. 

Regards, Sue

>>> director at idea.edu.au 07/15/07 12:58 PM >>>
Given the ongoing comments that the VCAA can, if it chose to, alter the
scripting component of the exam so to take into account that ' the
questions
are pitched too high for year 12 students.'.... does any one know if
they
have the power to do so....has anyone formally asked?....is the VCAA
bound
like all other stakeholders in the Cert III, to strictly abide by the
competencies as is, even to the extent to be an audit issue, controlled
by
government regulations?... 

If the exam is not directly a product of the Cert III, then you are
correct
in pursing the VCAA, but if it is, then you probably have been wasting a
lot
of time in trying to make them change what they can't change.

Regards
Paul Conway
Academic Director

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-----Original Message-----
From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
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On Behalf Of Mr John Parlas
Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2007 11:12 AM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [vet-mm] Examiners Report 06

Spot on Sue. As mentioned last year, not even the old Systems course
required scripting responses that the Multimedia exam wanted. VCAA must
be
more prescriptive as to the degree to which scripting is taught for
their
purposes.
Regards
John

-----Original Message-----
From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Susan Bell
Sent: Thu 7/12/2007 5:28 PM
To: vet-mm at edulists.com.au; claire at warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au
Subject: Re: [vet-mm] Examiners Report 06

Its not surprising that scripting is still a grey area. Like I've said
many times, the questions are pitched too high for year 12 students. If
scripting questions are to be included then VCAA need to consider that
their TAFE training package cannot be delivered to the depth required on
a year 12 exam. You'd think they'd have understood this by now.
Regards, Sue

>>> claire at warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au 07/12/07 9:26 AM >>>
Hi folks,

Report has just been posted
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vet/programs/multimedia/assessreports/2006/multim
edia_assessrep_06.pdf

Just a quick look-it seems we still aren't teaching scripting very well,

although write content and copy is improving!!
Love to hear people's comments!

Claire Bloom
Warrandyte High
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