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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Kent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 12 August 2010 4:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sounds to me like you need to now make contact with your VASS
person there and determine from them, the details of course name, stream etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>ie..have they enrolled the students as Cert 2 or Cert 3? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Do you plan to do scored assessment, or has it been done/started?
If YES to this one..has an assessment plan been submitted via VASS, or
not?(to the VASS person for system entry).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Looks like a combo of software and hardware units from your list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Are you being auspiced by an RTO? Or is your school an RTO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Or..this might just be a course "tailored to the needs of the
learners"? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Are there individual training plans?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>An overall training plan?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>ATTACHED: I have attached my training plans for my Cert 2 and 3
courses plus, my VCAA 'Assessment Plan' that I am following for my Cert 3
course. Also attached is an official pdf doc that you perhaps could browse and
maybe this could clear up some questions...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>have a look and see if these link to what you have. If they help
...thats great. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Here is the link to the VCAA vet stuff that you should have a
squiz at...it may answer a few of your questions..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'><a
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vet/programs/infotech/infotech.html">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vet/programs/infotech/infotech.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sounds to me like your setup has heaps of potential to do 'a lot
in a hurry!' depending on how NOS and OS 'savvy' you are!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Any more questions..if I can help I will!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hey, just thought of a great idea Quentin...give the folk at the
VCAA a call(VET studies unit) and have a yak if you're not
sure...surely they can perhaps give you some good help too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>You've got my email now for further chats....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hey Nashy...you've entered lots of these...what's your thought
here?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";
color:blue;background:white'>Kent Beveridge</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#3366FF'>ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Lydall, Quentin C
[lydall.quentin.c@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 12 August 2010 2:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks for the contact, Kent,
Peter, it’s good to be in touch with teachers who know more about this
course. No one here at Heywood knows exactly what stream we are
doing. I inherited the class from another teacher, who left no concrete
information. There is a fair bit of networking involved, so I think that
is their stream. Could you please enlighten me? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The modules the students are
enrolled in are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>BSBCMN106A Follow Workplace Safety
Procedures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAD2012A Design Organisational
Documents Using Computing Packages<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAI3021A Connect Internal
Hardware Components<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAI3110A Implement System
Software Changes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAS3032A Provide Network Systems
Administration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAS3121A Administer Network
Peripherals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAS3234B Care For Computer
Hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAU1128A Operate A Personal
Computer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAD2005A Operate Computer
Hardware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAD2006A Operate Computing
Packages<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAU2013A Integrate Commercial
Computing Packages<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAU2231A Use Computer Operating
System<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAU3019A Migrate to New
Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAW2001A Work Effectively In An
IT Environment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICAW2002A Communicate In The
Workplace<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICPMM321A Capture A Digital Image<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have downloaded the NTIS
documents which define the criteria for each module. So far, I am
assessing using several methods, including observation, checking the required
hours are done, assessing submitted work based on the NTIS assessment
criteria. I have also given them some online theory tests (using
Moodle). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>We have a room with, potentially,
a stand-alone network. There is a server which the students have
configured, a switch, and a desktop PC for each student. I had the CAT
cable ordered along with the ducting, but these were delivered to the builders
doing the government funded building (!). They sent it to their warehouse and
cannot trace it (!!). When this is finally resolved, we can finish
building the network and they will do the software and peripherals
administration, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>These students respond best to
more practical activities, so getting in 60 hours of designing organisational
documents using computing packages is quite a challenge. They enjoyed
dismantling the dozens of ancient PCs which cluttered the store rooms, and then
used the hardware knowledge they acquired to alter their own PCs – add more
memory, add another disk drive, etc. They also get to install any new
software which the school gets. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>One of the girls told me today
that her Nanna bought a computer on the weekend, and she put it all together
for her and installed the software. She was very proud because her
Nanna was so impressed. This is a great course to teach, but I would
appreciate any tips and help from more experienced VET IT teachers (I
previously taught VCE units 1-4).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Quentin Lydall<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Heywood & District Secondary
College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='color:black'> vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 August 2010 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi Quentin,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>what stream are you doing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>General, NetAdmin or Software?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I'm doing the NetAdmin stream.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Peter Nash, Kevork and a crew of
others are also doing it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Are you doing the scored
assessment stuff or not? (my lot are).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>KB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kent Beveridge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC,
HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='color:black'> vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au
[vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Lydall, Quentin C
[lydall.quentin.c@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 August 2010 9:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> vet-it@edulists.com.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [vet-it] Is this list really retired?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi, I’ve picked up a VET IT Cert 3
class, lovely kids and interesting course but I’d like to share with other VET
IT teachers. Is this list still active?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Quentin Lydall – Heywood &
District Secondary College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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