[vet-it] CERT IV in Workplace Assessment

Kevork Krozian K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
Thu Sep 3 09:26:06 EST 2009


Hi Folks,

  You all know that I don't like to stir any controversial issues but this post on whirlpool.net.au got me wondering what others thought about this issue:


TAFE in WA after 1995 decided all teachers to have the Cert IV (Workplace Assessment). What a lot of rubbish that qualification is! Some of my colleagues had a Grad Dip Ed, some a Masters deg. in Ed. and some even a doctorate in Ed., bad luck, they all had to do the Cert IV. TAFE just wanted to save themselves the teacher training I had to undergo, where I received a few hours off per week to attend lectures at WAIT (now Curtin uni) in the evenings but had to put the majority of time in myself. There is no more teacher training for TAFE teachers, I believe it all has been privatised, meaning, you pay your $1,000 for this Cert IV rubbish with a private college to be eligible for TAFE employment.

Great for the bottom line of TAFE.   http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1260928&p=-1#bottom



 So much for teaching and learning, pedagogy and all the professional standards secondary teachers have to constantly work at whilst TAFE doesn't have to stress about this ... as much ?



  This really highlights the difficulties between secondaries and TAFEs working together. One approaches the challenge from teaching and learning and the other from the dollars, time, funding, with learning outcomes somewhere down the bottom of the list.

  I am not having a go at the TAFE teachers caught up in the system, just the policy.



Take Care



Kevork Krozian
Digital Learning Manager
Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au<mailto:k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au>
Tel: 0419 356 034
________________________________
From: Paul Kingston [paul at ringwoodsc.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 September 2009 9:55 PM
To: Kevork Krozian
Subject: Re: Request for copy of your CERT IV in Workplace Assessment

LOL I have just move 1/2 my office to Ringwood and there is paperwork everywhere at the moment.  I will try and find it at home if not I hope to find it at Ringwood tomorrow :)


On 1/09/09 10:17 AM, "Kevork Krozian" <K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Your Cert IV may be valid. The auditor wants a copy of it to check if it is current.
Can you  by any chance bring it with you on Wednesday so we can fax it for verification ?

Take Care

Kevork Krozian
Digital Learning Manager
Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au<UrlBlockedError.aspx>
Tel: 0419 356 034


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