No we don't use open directory, we use the Novell equivalent. It works and I concede, so would open directory. I am pleased they get along together, like a few mates on Lygon Street. :-)<br><br>Is
anybody prepared to say that their solution is the only or the right one? We shouldn't let the familiar drive the obvious and accept that there are many many right outcomes to these similar problems. For many of us, the reason we do the things we do is probably historical, cultural and personal.
<br><br>We could all speak English, use the one telephone provider, share the same belief, drive the same car and use mice with just one button. (don't take the bait .. I am only teasing) Of course, the real world is a more interesting place to live in. ;-)
<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/07/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Anton Yoxon</b> <<a href="mailto:yox@sosc.vic.edu.au">yox@sosc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font size="2"><b>Cant you just use open directory. At South Oakleigh secondary we run apple and windows and 3 linux's off the one machine via parallells software. It works. We have a win 2003 server and an xserver as well
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<p><strong><font size="2">regards</font></strong></p>
<p><strong><font size="2">anton</font></strong></p>
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<p><font size="2"><b>On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:09:14 +1000, Neil Wallace wrote</b>
</font></p><div><span class="e" id="q_113d839eeefaab16_1"><font size="2"><br>> <font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>We would be very interested too in any site visit to share experiences and learn more about mac integration.
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<br>> <font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>We currently have Linux. Windows, Netware all living together happily (much like Roland described) and are interested in developing the Mac options, and finding out more about virtualisation. (various OS on same piece of hardware.)
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<br>> <font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Neil Wallace</span></font>
<br>> <font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Norwood Secondary College</span></font>
<br>> <font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>9871 0424</span></font>
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Stefyn
<br>> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 July 2007 4:02 PM
<br>> <b>To:</b> Technical Discussion in Schools Mailing List
<br>> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Technical] NOS Switchover Query
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<br>> Hi Russell,
<br>>
<br>> We run a pretty similar setup here at Westall, but I'm interested in how you manage the Mac authentication into Novell. A few staff have macbook laptops and so far we have been using windows virtual machines to do the Novell integration, anything easier would have a strong ease of use bonus.
<br>>
<br>> I understand Swinburne are also pretty heavily into Novell and Groupwise, I'm wondering how you'd respond to allowing a site visit to have a look over your setup and possibly seeing if we can arrange any mutual technology collaboration.
<br>>
<br>> Daniel Stefyn
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<br>> <span class="gmail_quote">On 7/17/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Russell Curr</b> <<a href="mailto:RUSSELL@avila.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">RUSSELL@avila.vic.edu.au
</a>> wrote:</span> </p>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">..and similar here Keith. We have Novell, Windows, and Linux servers. All authentication done via Novell; email on Groupwise, but use Linux for Moodle, Squid, Sarg, CUPS, PaperCut (to manage printing and web credits - works a treat). And we are starting to deploy Mac workstations (laptops and desktop systems) that authenticate into Novell. Have also started using VMserver after using VMworkstation for a couple of years.
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<br>> cheers
<br>> Russell
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<br>> >>> <a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a> 07/17/07 11:39 am >>>
<br>> Same here Keith, we run a hybrid network that happily supports Novell,
<br>> Windows and Linux servers and a mix of workstations. Authentication by
<br>> Novell, application distribution and reimaging by Zenworks, print charging
<br>> with pcounter, some dedicated applications on a Windows server (bibliotech,
<br>> markbook etc), Linux (mail / moodle / drupal / sarg / squid / squidguard
<br>> etc). I took some cues from Monash and Swinburne that run similar Novell
<br>> networks (where our Tech comes from).
<br>>
<br>> Of course this isn't Highlander
<br>> <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_%2528film%2529" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_%2528film%2529</a>>and we are looking
<br>> to support a school, not a SOHO <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHO_network" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHO_network</a>>
<br>> network.
<br>>
<br>> Instead, give some thought now towards virtualising and migrating all your
<br>> your network servers using VMWare technology. No reason you cannot run all
<br>> these happily together on the one or two physical servers. Once done, you
<br>> can step back and reexamine your network services once hardware is removed
<br>> from the equation and the focus is put back onto services. :-)
<br>>
<br>> Regards Roland
<br>>
<br>> On 16/07/07, Keith Richardson <<a href="mailto:keithcr@fastmail.fm" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">keithcr@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> > Hi everyone - just back in Oz after 3 months away OS. Loved it, but have
<br>> > come down to Earth with a thud...
<br>> > I am investigating switching our network from Novell to Microsoft 2003
<br>> > Server.
<br>> > Any advice?
<br>> > Cheers, Keith
<br>> > Keith Richardson
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