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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can measure traffic in as used by each
user. You measure only what comes in over the internet connection. Much of the
software only measures port 80 (or whatever it is set to) not all traffic on
other ports<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When students use credit up then papercut
removes them from the internet users group so then they can only access intranet
and school email<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gaia does much the same but when I saw it
last it only updated overnight… it may have improved now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Papercut uses a single pool of money fro
printing and internet and so when they use print credit up they lose internet
as well – very handy as pressure fro them to control their printing and
to make sure they always have some credit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is also interesting to see students
migrate from Hotmail to the school email as they begin to see how much internet
credit the constant refreshes use..!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In my last school we had the cost
down to 4.5c per megabyte including gst. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> <st1:PlaceType
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen Digby<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 September 2006
5:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>Charge 10c Mb download. $6 combined notional printing and
internet credit per semester. After this students pay $5 lots to top up
their account. All intranet access is free. Teachers are encouraged
o download material rather than send students "out to get it" all the
time. About 20% of students pay extra. Probably drop the charge as
Mb costs decrease and MB download increases with VicSmart....... </span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>How extra downloads make us "Smart" is anyone's guess
?? Didn't seem to work for more TV hours.... </span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>======================================================================================<br>
Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager <br>
<a href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a>
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<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Cheltenham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
<a href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a> Ph: 613
955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617<br>
======================================================================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Children begin by loving their parents; as they grow older they judge them;
sometimes they forgive them. ~Oscar Wilde<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mansfield, Shane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 04 September 2006 01:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Hi Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Thanks for the feedback, am curious as to how you charged the
students for Internet usage – do these software packages measure
downloads? How much do you charge? Do you invoice he students? Block them from
using the internet if they haven’t paid?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Shane<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Shortell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 September 2006
12:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName>; ipm@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Shane<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have
used Gaia and papercut for both printing and internet charging.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Both
were fine for printing, both add print value by using vouchers purchased from
business manager/ bursar and printed out by IT staff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Papercut
was superior for internet charging as it updated every 10 minutes, The older
version of GAIA only updated once per day, I do not have recent experience with
the latest version of GAIA and internet charging.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just be
careful of the share where the data is held as the encryption key for gaia is,
by default, stored in the data folder…… as students here found out!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Andrew
Shortell</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on"><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Braemar</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mansfield, Shane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 September 2006
11:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ipm@edulists.com.au;
tech@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I would appreciate some
feedback on what other schools are using to manage there printing costs with
students – Software and or policies. How effective is it and how do you
manage student payment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Shane Mansfield<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>IT Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<a href="ttp://www.vitta.org.au">http://www.vitta.org.au </a>- VITTA Victorian
Information Technology Teachers Association Inc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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