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<div>Hi <span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 12pt;">Troy</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 12pt;">Try to push back as hard as you can against getting rid of labs, some additional arguments</span></div>
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<li>Laptops and ipads are good devices to use applications that other people have created<b>, they are not a professional platform for actually creating ICT products or apps. </b> </li><li>Professionals in IT use <b>desktop computers </b>to create sophisticated products, like apps, film, songs and websites. </li><li>The demands of VCE IT subjects and many visual design subjects logically demand higher end machines, with lots of screen space. Try editing a film and managing the soundtrack on laptop. </li><li>I couldn't imagine trying to run a gaming class at 9 or 10 using laptops. </li><li>We need to have an environment where students can breakdown problems, design a solution, develop a solution and evaluate, laptops could be fine for junior years but as the demands of the curriculum increase so does the requirement for more processing power
and screen space. </li><li>A whole school laptop program is a big win for ICT/eLearning in a school and should advance learning in most subjects. But if there aren't enough labs to support computing, audio technology, VCE visual art / media subjects then the outcomes for those students
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<div>Anyway these are just my personal opinions informed by teaching kids in all sorts of environments for 10 years. I was going to suggest getting your boss to try and edit a film or a large Photoshop file on a laptop with a small screen with a Wifi connection
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Computer Lab question<br>
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<div>Good questions to ask:</div>
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<li>Will your school cover the cost of Adobe Software and other expensive specialised software available for download on to individual machines? <br>
</li><li>Will the students have machines with the grunt required to run the required software?</li><li>How do you run a class with a range of different machines/OS or will the individual laptops be prescribed?</li><li>Who is responsible for ad hoc technical issues with laptops in class? The IT teacher? </li><li>Will the school have enough wifi ports and bandwidth to manage the additional 1000s of laptops demanding access? (My last school did not and it made staff tech training impossible: with only 80 staff we could not all access the network at once in the same
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<div>You need a lab! Hope that helps.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for the off topic post. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My school is looking at getting rid of our computer labs in favour of a school wide student laptop program. I was wondering if anyone else has any experience in this, especially in terms of software compatibility issues and authentication
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