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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=668394906-24032017><FONT face=Arial>Yes
definitely use string for postcode if not performing arithmetic. It also of
course accommodates those postcodes starting with 0 (Just sticking to Aus) and
overseas postcodes which are alphanumeric.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Retired</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Darren
Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 24 March 2017 4:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12
SofDev] Updated version<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>Using an inbuilt
function like isNumeric() in Visual Basic will do the same thing, and gives
another place to see the KK point </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>processing features
of a programming language, including instructions, procedures, methods,
<B>functions</B> and control structures</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>I guess
it</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>s entering the land
of philosophical debate, but I like the line, </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>If you perform
arithmetic on it, store it as a number. Otherwise it's a string.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> There used to be an
argument of data size (4 1-byte characters vs a 4-byte integer) but now
we</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>re measuring in
terabytes, that argument</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>s gone the way of the
floppy disk.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Phillip Donald<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 24, 2017 3:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
<sofdev@edulists.com.au><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Updated
version<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Integers are great if the postcode is for Australia, it
enforces validation right from the data type. As soon as you go international
though, postcode should be a string. I think if you added in a sentence about
this being Australia only you could get away with it, especially as it provides
a good chance for them to do some data validation.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Vera Cook <<A
href="mailto:vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thankyou Darren,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">I was going to add file access but as I only have 1
week left of the term I decided to do it later, with a joint class
Informatics/software I have been pushed for time. I probably should have used
postcode as an integer and am hoping some of my students pick up on that and I
will have to fi point 4 and in task 8 it is supposed to indicate making a tic
tac toe game it was a good visual design that I found.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thankyou very much for the feedback
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">I also decided to give them a choice of either 6 or 7
and either 8 or 9 as they give me variety.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="COLOR: #1f497d">Vera</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Darren
Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 24 March 2017 12:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<A
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>sofdev@edulists.com.au</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12
SofDev] Updated version</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Hey Vera, I just
had a quick look over and thought the following … feel free to add or
ignore.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">I’ve
seen a few people mention that sorting isn’t in U3O1 specifically, but
there’s no reason you can’t do it as an algorithm, so I did sorting in U3O1
anyway … to me, it makes no sense to binary search if you haven’t covered
sorting first/as well.<o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">Are
you doing any file access stuff? XML file formats is a key knowledge so I’d
recommend putting in something that reads from/writes to a file.<o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">In
task 1 you have postcode as an integer … why not a string? You’re never
going to do any maths on a postcode.<o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">Task
5 refers to task 1 in the form, but your swapping question is task 2.
<o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">I
don’t know what you want the kids to do in task 8 … are they making
tic-tac-toe? Or just a subpart of the game where the board is already 6
pieces in?<o:p></o:p></LI></UL>
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lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [<A
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target=_blank>mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Vera Cook<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 24, 2017 8:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<A
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>sofdev@edulists.com.au</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12
SofDev] Updated version<BR><B>Importance:</B>
High</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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chance could you please have a quick look, have I missed a major point
or is it too long or both..<o:p></o:p></P>
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