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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Using an inbuilt function like isNumeric() in Visual Basic will do the same thing, and gives another place to see the KK point
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">processing features of a programming language, including instructions, procedures, methods,
<b>functions</b> and control structures</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I guess it</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">’</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">s entering the land of philosophical
 debate, but I like the line, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">If you perform arithmetic on it, store it as a number. Otherwise it's a string.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
 There used to be an argument of data size (4 1-byte characters vs a 4-byte integer) but now we</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">’</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">re measuring in terabytes, that argument</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">’</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">s
 gone the way of the floppy disk.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phillip Donald<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 24, 2017 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;sofdev@edulists.com.au&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Updated version<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Integers are great if the postcode is for Australia, it enforces validation right from the data type. As soon as you go international though, postcode should be a string. I think if you added in a sentence about this being Australia only
 you could get away with it, especially as it provides a good chance for them to do some data validation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Vera Cook &lt;<a href="mailto:vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thankyou Darren,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I was going to add file access but as I only have 1 week left of the term I decided to do it later, with a joint class Informatics/software I have been
 pushed for time. I probably should have used postcode as an integer and am hoping some of my students pick up on that and I will have to fi point 4 and in task 8 it is supposed to indicate making a tic tac toe game it was a good visual design that I found.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thankyou very much for the feedback
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I also decided to give them a choice of either 6 or 7 and either 8 or 9 as they give me variety.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Vera</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 24 March 2017 12:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Updated version</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hey Vera, I just had a quick look over and thought the following … feel free to add or ignore.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I’ve seen a few people mention that sorting isn’t in U3O1 specifically, but there’s no reason you can’t do it as an algorithm, so I did sorting in U3O1 anyway … to me, it makes no sense to binary search if you haven’t covered sorting first/as well.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Are you doing any file access stuff? XML file formats is a key knowledge so I’d recommend putting in something that reads from/writes to a file.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
In task 1 you have postcode as an integer … why not a string? You’re never going to do any maths on a postcode.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Task 5 refers to task 1 in the form, but your swapping question is task 2. <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
I don’t know what you want the kids to do in task 8 … are they making tic-tac-toe? Or just a subpart of the game where the board is already 6 pieces in?<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">How long were you giving for this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Darren<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vera Cook<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 24, 2017 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Updated version<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If anyone has a chance could you please have&nbsp; a quick look, have I missed a major point or is it too long or both..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thankyou Vera<o:p></o:p></p>
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