<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#0563C1;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#954F72;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.PlainTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Plain Text";
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:484585509;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:-2065297488 201916431 201916441 201916443 201916431 201916441 201916443 201916431 201916441 201916443;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-number-format:alpha-lower;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
@list l0:level3
{mso-level-number-format:roman-lower;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:right;
text-indent:-9.0pt;}
@list l0:level4
{mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
@list l0:level5
{mso-level-number-format:alpha-lower;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
@list l0:level6
{mso-level-number-format:roman-lower;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:right;
text-indent:-9.0pt;}
@list l0:level7
{mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
@list l0:level8
{mso-level-number-format:alpha-lower;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
@list l0:level9
{mso-level-number-format:roman-lower;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:right;
text-indent:-9.0pt;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’d suggest that anything (with the <i>possible</i> exception of a new game) has an existing system of some sort. If the student has found a real client that wants something done, then they would have to currently do it somehow. Do you
have an example?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The student I have that is having the most difficulty with getting this into a diagram is looking at his pantry stock for expiry dates, but even still the existing system is a manual one. He had to do some lateral thinking to get it, but
it was there. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Damien<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#82002C;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">Damien Atkinson-Buck</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">
<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#766A65;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">Member of Academic Staff (Secondary).</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="629" style="width:471.75pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://" target="''"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="557" height="6" id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image001.png@01D2A157.24FB6E90"></span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt 22.5pt .75pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.ivanhoe.com.au/" target="''"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="247" height="110" id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image002.png@01D2A157.24FB6E90" alt="http://www.ivanhoe.com.au"></span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt 9.0pt">
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="500" style="width:375.0pt;margin-left:7.5pt">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt 9.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#766A65;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">The Ridgeway, Ivanhoe VIC 3079 Australia</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#766A65;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt 9.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#82002C;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">p.</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> <span style="color:#766A65">+61 3 9490
3848</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt 9.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#82002C;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">e.</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> <span style="color:#766A65">damien.atkinson-buck@ivanhoe.com.au</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt 9.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#82002C;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">w.</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><a href="http://www.ivanhoe.com.au"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#766A65">www.ivanhoe.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:3.0pt .75pt .75pt 7.5pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/IvanhoeGrammarSchool" target="''"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="28" height="28" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image003.png@01D2A157.24FB6E90"></span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/ivanhoegrammar" target="''"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:blue;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="28" height="28" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image004.png@01D2A157.24FB6E90"></span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Tony Crewe<br>
Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 8:22 AM<br>
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks Phil,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">As you will see from previous discussions, what if the need or opportunity has no existing system - manual or digital. Do students just omit that analysis without penalty?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Then do their requirements, scope etc for their proposed solution.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> On 20 Mar 2017, at 8:14 am, Feain, Philip A <<a href="mailto:feain.philip.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">feain.philip.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Dear All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> That's the existing information system for the diagrams and proposed solution for the SRS. The diagrams can go in the appendices of the SRS.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Phil Feain.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> On 20 Mar 2017, at 8:06 am, Feain, Philip A <<a href="mailto:feain.philip.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">feain.philip.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Dear All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> I have to agree with James. We are talking about the existing system for analysis. Students will draw the required diagrams and the do the SRS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Phil Feain.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 2:58 pm, Vella, James <<a href="mailto:jvella@mackillop.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jvella@mackillop.vic.edu.au</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> The diagrams should be of the existing system or process.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Regardless of whether students are looking to meet a need or opportunity, there is almost always some existing system or manual process in place.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> The SRS is part of the Analysis stage - not the Design stage.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> James<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> ________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>> on behalf of
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</span></a> <<a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Sent: Saturday, 18 March 2017 12:00 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> To: <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Subject: sofdev Digest, Vol 144, Issue 18<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Send sofdev mailing list submissions to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/sofdev">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/sofdev</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> You can reach the person managing the list at<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="mailto:sofdev-owner@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-owner@edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> than "Re: Contents of sofdev digest..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Today's Topics:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> 1. Diagrams in the SRS - of which system? (Lisa Kerekes) 2. Re:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Diagrams in the SRS - of which system? (Tony Crewe)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> --<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Message: 1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 03:14:21 +0000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> From: Lisa Kerekes <<a href="mailto:Lisa.Kerekes@donvale.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Lisa.Kerekes@donvale.vic.edu.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <<a href="mailto:c112a04d34714ca78b79283e0f369dfb@MAIL03.donvale.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">c112a04d34714ca78b79283e0f369dfb@MAIL03.donvale.vic.edu.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Just seeking clarification/confirmation as to whether the diagrams
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> in the SRS (the Use Case & Context & DFDs) - ought to be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> - of the client's existing system (if they have one)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> - of the student's proposed solution<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> I guess I'm asking whether the diagrams are more useful to be drawn so students can grasp how the current system works ... or to plan how their solution should function.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Page 2 of VCAA's Admin Info for SBA<<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/SBA_General.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/SBA_General.pdf</span></a>> suggests
that the majority of the SRS is written to describe the new solution, based on data collected about the existing one. "An analysis that defines the requirements, constraints and scope of a solution in the form of a software requirements specification"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Assessment Criteria 3 reads:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> "Draws a set of logical conclusions with most being consistent with the data represented in the analytical tools."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Lisa Kerekes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Secondary Teacher (Computing, Media)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Phone: (03) 9844 2471 Ext: 266<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> scrubbed...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> URL: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/sofdev/attachments/20170317/6b1">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/sofdev/attachments/20170317/6b1</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> 588f3/attachment-0001.html<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> ------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Message: 2<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 03:26:58 +0000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> From: Tony Crewe <<a href="mailto:TonyCrewe@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">TonyCrewe@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <SYXPR01MB022351185852B381E5DA06B7CF390@SYXPR01MB0223.ausprd01.prod.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> outlook.com><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> I think best for proposed solution,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> A number of students create solution based on a need or opportunity rather than an existingsituation in any case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>] On Behalf Of Lisa Kerekes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Sent: Friday, 17 March 2017 2:14 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Just seeking clarification/confirmation as to whether the diagrams
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> in the SRS (the Use Case & Context & DFDs) - ought to be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> - of the client's existing system (if they have one)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> - of the student's proposed solution<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> I guess I'm asking whether the diagrams are more useful to be drawn so students can grasp how the current system works ... or to plan how their solution should function.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Page 2 of VCAA's Admin Info for SBA<<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/SBA_General.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/SBA_General.pdf</span></a>> suggests
that the majority of the SRS is written to describe the new solution, based on data collected about the existing one. "An analysis that defines the requirements, constraints and scope of a solution in the form of a software requirements specification"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Assessment Criteria 3 reads:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> "Draws a set of logical conclusions with most being consistent with the data represented in the analytical tools."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Lisa Kerekes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Secondary Teacher (Computing, Media)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Phone: (03) 9844 2471 Ext: 266<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> scrubbed...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> URL: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/sofdev/attachments/20170317/6b5">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/sofdev/attachments/20170317/6b5</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> 64adc/attachment-0001.html<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> ------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> sofdev mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/sofdev">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/sofdev</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> End of sofdev Digest, Vol 144, Issue 18<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> ***************************************<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au</span></a> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe IT Software
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Development Mailing List kindly supported by <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</span></a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Authority and <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.htm">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.htm</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> l <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vitta.org.au</span></a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Teachers Association Inc <a href="http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools</span></a> -
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>>> Swinburne University<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage
or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those
of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Training.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au</span></a> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe IT Software
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Development Mailing List kindly supported by <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</span></a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Authority and <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vitta.org.au</span></a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Teachers Association Inc <a href="http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools</span></a> -
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Swinburne University<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or
consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of
the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Training.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au</span></a> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe IT Software
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Development Mailing List kindly supported by <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</span></a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Authority and <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vitta.org.au</span></a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Teachers Association Inc <a href="http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools</span></a> -
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Swinburne University<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.edulists.com.au</span></a> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe IT Software Development Mailing List kindly supported by
<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</span></a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.vitta.org.au</span></a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc
<a href="http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools</span></a> - Swinburne University<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Privacy, Virus and Copyright Warning<br>
<br>
The information contained in this electronic message (e-mail), and any files transmitted with it:<br>
<br>
* is intended for the named recipients only. If you have received this in error, please advise the sender and delete it and any copies immediately;<br>
* Any personal information in this email must be used in accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 and this always applies even if it has been sent to you in error.<br>
* represents the views of the sender and does not necessarily represent the views or formal advice of Ivanhoe Grammar School;<br>
* may be subject to Copyright, so no further use should be made of it without the author's permission.<br>
<br>
The School does not represent or warrant that the email or any files attached do not contain errors or are free from computer viruses or other defects nor does it accept responsibility for any loss or damage resulting directly or indirectly from the use of
the email or any attached files.
</body>
</html>