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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT face=Arial>Whoops!
Sorry my mistake. Emails from both lists come in to the same
folder.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT face=Arial>Re SD -
The rubric is quite specific in what is required to get the highest marks. You
are left to interpret terms such as
<P align=left><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=284335903-09062016>"</SPAN>complete and relevant</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><FONT size=2>set of data for analysis<SPAN
class=284335903-09062016>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">"</FONT><FONT
size=2 face="Arial Narrow">wide range of appropriate</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">collection methods and</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><FONT size=2>techniques.<SPAN
class=284335903-09062016>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT face=Arial>in so
far as you feel they relate to the size of the project.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=284335903-09062016><FONT face=Arial>The main
thing is to be consistent in your application of the criteria across students.
You are concerned mainly with ranking your students in order. The marks you give
them will be statistically moderated to give their final
scores.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV align=left>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Retired</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ciappara, Anthony
A<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 9 June 2016 1:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev]
Limited SAT Scope and criteria<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: #000000; DIRECTION: ltr">
<P>Thanks Robert but I was referring to Software Development.</P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
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<DIV id=divRpF855258 style="DIRECTION: ltr"><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Robert Hind
[robert@yinnar.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 9 June 2016 1:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=675500403-09062016><FONT
face=Arial>Assessment criteria rubric available online</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=675500403-09062016><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=675500403-09062016><FONT face=Arial><A
href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/redir.aspx?REF=Ws4VfyGMtllmjMVjQkxBMrH3PDXBOiCEd3nHA2XjhLglM7r9FpDTCAFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnZjYWEudmljLmVkdS5hdS9Eb2N1bWVudHMvdmNlL2NvbXB1dGluZy9JbmZvcm1hdGljc19TQkEucGRm"
target=_blank>http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/computing/Informatics_SBA.pdf</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=675500403-09062016><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV align=left>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Retired</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ciappara, Anthony
A<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:26 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev]
Limited SAT Scope and criteria<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: #000000; DIRECTION: ltr">Hi
Robert
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Where did that quote come from?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>Anthony</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; COLOR: #000000">
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<DIV id=divRpF702157 style="DIRECTION: ltr"><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Robert Hind
[robert@yinnar.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 8 June 2016 3:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=712504705-08062016><FONT face=Arial>I am not
teaching at present BUT on reading through criteria 1 to 3 it seems to me that
the size of the project only comes into criterion 2 where for a top mark the
student</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=712504705-08062016><FONT face=Arial>"
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">Acquires multiple complex
data</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">sets of different types of
data,</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">qualities and structures from
both</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">primary and secondary
data</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">sources. Uses
appropriate</FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT size=2 face="Arial Narrow">methods to acquire data
from</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><FONT size=2>both types of sources.<SPAN
class=712504705-08062016>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=712504705-08062016></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </P>
<P><SPAN class=712504705-08062016>but the quantity of data is not
specified.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=712504705-08062016></SPAN> </P><SPAN
class=712504705-08062016>
<DIV align=left>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2
face=Arial>Retired</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ciappara, Anthony
A<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 8 June 2016 3:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 SofDev] Limited
SAT Scope and criteria<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: #000000; DIRECTION: ltr">
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>Hi everybody </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>Just wondering how people handled marking criteria 1-3 when the
size of SAT project scopes differed.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>How does a limited SAT scope affect student results for criteria
1-3?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>If a student has a simple SAT project with limited functions are
they able to score maximum marks for criteria 1-3. What if they get everything
right, it’s all perfect, but the project is just limited in
size?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>Eg. A student has a simple project. It validates data, does a
simple calculation or two, saves data and allow the user to retrieve data.
That’s it. They address all criteria perfectly, based on this simple project.
All their diagrams, SRS and design work is perfect but quite basic because of
their limited scope. Where do their results stand compared to a student who
has a more difficult project and makes a couple errors? The student with
the more difficult project has a lot more correct, good quality work than the
student with the simple project.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>I’ve read as much documentation as I can find but cannot see this
scenario mentioned.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>Thanks in advance</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU><FONT
face=Calibri>Anthony Ciappara</FONT></SPAN></P>
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