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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">AND &#8230; In PHP arrays are very flexible. With the ability array_sort and to array_push new elements on the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laurie Savage<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 March 2016 8:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;sofdev@edulists.com.au&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Should I teach lists?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On the other hand we are asking them to build a real world app. for their SAT. array_search() is a more efficient use of code in PHP than coding a full binary search.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7 Mar 2016, at 12:05 PM, Croke, Daryl D &lt;<a href="mailto:croke.daryl.d@edumail.vic.gov.au">croke.daryl.d@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Python doesn't do arrays as such, but you can make list within list and make them function like an array, so surely that's the point.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">What are we trying to achieve? What code do we require to achieve that?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Even though we can have mixed data type lists in Python it would be best to avoid that.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on behalf of Laurie Savage [<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 7 March 2016 11:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Should I teach lists?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm no expert here so I'm very happy to be corrected but this poses a problem with PHP and Python where arrays and lists are interchangeable. In PHP and Python arrays can contain elements of different types: e.g.
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<p class="MsoNormal">$fred = array(&quot;Fred&quot;, &quot;Smith&quot;, 40, 78.50) so $fred[2] &#43; $fred[3] = 118.5 but $fred[0] &#43; $fred[1] should throw an error in PHP, not in Python.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">$fred = array(&quot;FName&quot;=&gt;&quot;Fred&quot;, SName&quot;=&gt;&quot;Smith&quot;, &quot;Age&quot;=&gt;40, &quot;Weight&quot;=&gt; 78.5)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I seem to remember having this discussion with Kevork back in 2010!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7 Mar 2016, at 11:09 AM, Chris Bucknell &lt;<a href="mailto:Chris.Bucknell@haileybury.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">Chris.Bucknell@haileybury.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Like Damien I don&#8217;t encourage my students to use List and Dictionaries because in they tend to confuse them and arrays when it comes to exams.&nbsp; So I find it simpler
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, 7 March 2016 10:38 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Should I teach lists?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Ben,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Personally steer away from Lists and Dictionaries, even though they&#8217;re technically easier to use (and in at least the case of dictionaries, sometimes
 faster) purely because I don&#8217;t want to add any extra confusion for the students. When it comes to exams, they are likely to be asked questions about arrays. If they put in an example in list format, an exam assessor may not get that and give them zero&#8230;. Especially
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, 7 March 2016 9:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Year 12 SofDev] Should I teach lists?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I&#8217;m contemplating whether on not I should teach my students about Lists in C# and VB as they will be of more use to them then Arrays when doing their SAT (List are dynamic
 and have more functionality). I just wanted to know what peoples thoughts are on this and if they go beyond the data collections mentioned in the study design. The SD just mentions Arrays and Records.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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