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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I do love the discussions that vocabulary brings about.&nbsp; A record in computing has a variety of definitions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A collection of data items in a file or data set,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A user defined type, being a concatenation of one or more members of various data types,
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A group of fields within a table in a database that are relevant to a specific entity,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A unit of data that is transmitted from a sender to a receiver,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(I’m sure there are other esoteric examples)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">These definitions are used in different contexts and for different technologies, so that’s why IMHO I believe we need to consider the
 context that “record” was identified in (i.e types of data structures) and in that case we would be considering a user defined type (a single variable that records several related pieces of information).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Now the next important issue is how we implement it this in the multitude of programming languages that are available to us.&nbsp; Do we
 use a structure/struct, a class, or … (please insert your favour technology implementation here)?&nbsp; Do we need to consider stack and heap issues or the memory consumptions of the implementation of the data type?&nbsp; Once again IMHO we might be reading far too
 much into a single word (given the context it is used in).&nbsp; As highlighted previously, some programming languages do not directly support this concept, but importantly the “record” dot point is in the “key knowledge” so therefore do you need to directly implement
 it in code?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just my 5 cents worth (I upped the thinking time on this one
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#80004D">Chris Bucknell</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#515964">Head of CDT; Coord, Internal Exam; House Tutor</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#515964">&#43;61 3 9904 6360</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:%7bemail%7d"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Chris.Bucknell@haileybury.vic.edu.au</span></a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Guy Flaherty<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 26 February 2016 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Records VS Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">For those using Python it might be a little difficult to show a ‘record’ type, as there isn’t really one. The usual answer is to create a class and use it as
 a record type. In python, a class without methods only attributes is the common way to represent a struct or record type from other languages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">However, if you are using Python 3.3 or greater you can use the SimpleNamespace type from the types module which is pretty close to a record type and is built
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You might need to spend time comparing python’s lack of record types with other languages to get the idea across if your students are used to the python way
 of using variables. It would be difficult, for example, to limit a python object to a fixed number of attributes without creating a class to represent a record.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I am not sure if it would be accepted that a class and a record can be the same thing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Bucknell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 26 February 2016 12:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Records VS Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Ben,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That is the way that I read it also.&nbsp; I think the context of the dot point containing the identification of records and its elaboration
 in brackets – varying data types, field index – means that it must be a user defined data structure (i.e structs – C, structures – VB or records – pascal)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So to expand (with thanks to Wikipedia
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just my two cents worth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Baas, Benjamin B<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 26 February 2016 7:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Records VS Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The study design mentions records under the dot point referring to data structures. To me that sounds like they want to us to look
 at records with in the programming language. In the case of the C languages and VB struts or structures. That’s my interpretation. I might ask Paula.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paragreen, Chris J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 25 February 2016 3:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;</span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Records VS Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">My interpretation is that we need to teach records as in files and records, as opposed to the language specific data structure. How you then implement the record
 is up to … you? … the students? I’m also thinking that might tie into XML and the importing and exporting of data. Please tell me if my interpretation is wrong!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laurie Savage<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 25 February 2016 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List &lt;</span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Records VS Classes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Always a good idea to teach what is in the study design even if current practice is moving past it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25 February 2016 at 13:15, Baas, Benjamin B &lt;<a href="mailto:baas.benjamin.b@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">baas.benjamin.b@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I just wanted to get people’s opinions, as part of the study design we have to teach our students&nbsp; about record data structures. If we have to use an OO language would it not be
 best to just teach them how to make classes. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I haven’t done structs in C# before, only C, and to me it feels like I should just teach me students how to make basic classes and not worry about teaching sturcts. I will teach
 them structs as that’s what the study design says.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ben.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#17365D">Benjamin Baas</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Training.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Training.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Training.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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