<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">My feeling is that in the Folio exercises (U3O1) you are specifying the task quite explicitly and that should include prescribing the language being used - if you are unfamiliar with the language then it it could be difficult to assess the accuracy and completeness of the task. On the other hand the SAT is open-ended and the specifications come from the customer. The student would be sensible to explore different languages to add functional or non-functional elements to the solution. Mine are studying PHP but I would be surprised if the better ones didn't include Javascript or SQL in their solution.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Laurie</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23 Feb 2016, at 2:46 PM, Matheson, Geoff J <<a href="mailto:matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au" class="">matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">And by SAC in U1 I obviously meant SAC in U3. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">:)</div><div class=""><div id="MAC_OUTLOOK_SIGNATURE" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 16px;"><b class="">Geoff Matheson</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> on behalf of Geoff Matheson <<a href="mailto:matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Tuesday, 23 February 2016 at 2:42 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">This exact question was put at one of the VCAA information session late last year, and the verdict was that for the SAT (not sure about the SAC in U1) it is fine for a student to use a different language from the one being studied, as long as they meet the requirements. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div id="" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 16px;"><b class="">Geoff Matheson</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><font color="#1f497d" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Leading Teacher: Teaching and Learning Coach </span></font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size: 13px;" class="">–</span></font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""> Classroom Support </span></font></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><b style="" class=""><span id="cid:34ABAA72-C97C-4877-A40C-2B34DB07736A"><13413F1F-6F61-4734-9AF4-284256D3395A[2].png></span></b></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> on behalf of Travis Parker <<a href="mailto:Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Tuesday, 23 February 2016 at 2:29 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>[Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" class=""><div lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi All,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I have a quick query that’s never come up in the past few years – I generally teach VB (Yes, I’m a basic programmer!) and I have a student who loves using C#. I have asked him to make both the VB programs in class that we are making as a class and then recreate the same functionality using C#, which he has been doing at home and bringing to me.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">My question is are you allowed to still grade (And more importantly, rank) students using different programming languages within the same cohort? As they need to find a solution to their identified need or opportunity in the SAT I’m assuming they may be able to use any language they please? Or will this give some an unfair advantage/disadvantage?<br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">What are people’s thoughts (Or the rules even!) governing the use of multiple languages within the one group. 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font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- Swinburne University</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>