I think the main criterion is that you are able to examine the student's source code and accurately assess how well it satisfies the criteria in the rubric.<div>If you know so little about a student's chosen language that you can't tell whether it has been used well or poorly (e.g. Have efficient and effective functions been used?), you need to step in.</div><div><br>On Tuesday, 23 February 2016, Travis Parker <<a href="mailto:Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au">Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If I am disadvantaging my students can Paula or someone else up the chain please let me know and I’ll go back to uniformity across
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<p class="MsoNormal">My feeling is that in the Folio exercises (U3O1) you are specifying the task quite explicitly and that should include prescribing the language being used - if you are unfamiliar with the language then it it could be difficult to assess
the accuracy and completeness of the task. On the other hand the SAT is open-ended and the specifications come from the customer. The student would be sensible to explore different languages to add functional or non-functional elements to the solution. Mine
are studying PHP but I would be surprised if the better ones didn't include Javascript or SQL in their solution.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:<span> </span></b>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sofdev@edulists.com.au');" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span> </span></b>Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This exact question was put at one of the VCAA information session late last year, and the verdict was that for the SAT (not sure about the SAC in U1) it is fine for a student
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<b>To:<span> </span></b>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sofdev@edulists.com.au');" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span> </span></b>[Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have a quick query that’s never come up in the past few years – I generally teach VB (Yes, I’m a basic programmer!) and I have a student who loves using C#. I have asked
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My question is are you allowed to still grade (And more importantly, rank) students using different programming languages within the same cohort? As they need to find a solution
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