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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My short answer on the use of PHP and Java as languages that can be used is YES. But I think you need to look at the language requirements in a bit more depth than what we have been
used to in the past. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The new language requirements are not simply list of languages, but a description that allows us to use the appropriate languages/technologies for each layer of solution the students
will develop. So as an example, students could develop a solution that uses:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">HTML (with Java Script) as the “Interface Layer”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">PHP (as it was originally developed) for the “Logic Layer”, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some variant of a dB (MS-SQL, MYSQL, NOSQL, …) for the “Data Source Layer”, or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Follow the current application model/pattern for “Universal Apps” (if you are like me and live on the Micro$oft stack </span><a href="https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/xaml/dn726767.aspx"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/xaml/dn726767.aspx</span></a><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Of course I could also see many other application patterns using:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">files (text, XML, JSON, dB, web-services, …) for data storage/access,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">StoredProc’s, web services, etc… from dB servers as part of a solutions “Logic Layer”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Lastly my read on the “no dB in the Interface Layer”, is to solve the problem of a solution just being built in “MS Access”, ”Filemaker”, etc… - i.e. Access forms and reports and a wizard
produced solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Only my two cents worth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:%7bemail%7d"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt">Chris.Bucknell@haileybury.vic.edu.au</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maria-ana Sanchez<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 17 October 2015 1:12 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Event Driven Programming<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 17 Oct 2015, at 12:35, Robert Hallworth <<a href="mailto:hallworth.r@wcc.vic.edu.au">hallworth.r@wcc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Just looking at the VCAA on language requirements.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“use objects, methods and <b>event-driven programming functions</b>.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">PHP has been my language of choice BUT does not support “event-driven programming” .. well not easily. Does that mean I can’t use PHP?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What other languages are popular that satisfies this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">ALSO what does “Note that databases are not to be used in the interface layer.” mean?? Can I use MySQL in logic layer or NOT??</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Garamond Pro Bold";color:#365F91">Robert K Hallworth</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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