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<div>Kent.<br>
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Kent Beveridge
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On 28 May 2015, at 5:02 pm, Russo, Frank R <<a href="mailto:Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au">Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Fellow Educators<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I am teaching Robotics this year for the first time as a year 10 elective to try and motivate some of our less academic students.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I have 22 students of which 4 are girls, they all seem to really enjoy it, it is a big investment $$$ wise we purchased Lego Mindstorms Education Core Set (10) and Expansion Sets (5).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks to the support of my school principal for the initial $6000 and then a dedicated room so that we do not have to pack it all away and that end of each session.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Have set up teams of 2 or 3 students working collaboratively using a dedicated Laptop for each team which has the build instructions and programming component for each Robot.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The students love the building process and have made some very impressive projects showing real growth and challenge from something simple at the beginning of the year to quite complex examples of what a real life solution or application
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I have an Autistic student who thrives in this class and is able to build projects so quickly that it is an amazing skill, he doesn't like the programming side but appreciates the work that goes into it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I have really enjoyed teaching this subject and find myself most weekends playing with Lego and programming it so that I can help the kids should they have issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">A lot of it is very intuitive which makes it a lot easier.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Frank<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Weiyuan, Xin X<br>
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 12:47 PM<br>
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 122, Issue 22</span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Laurie,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">What type of robotic system do you use?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Weiyuan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> 1. Re: A research question... (Laurie Savage)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 12:39:30 +1000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Laurie Savage <<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] A research question...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Looks like an interesting course, what proportion of your enrolments would be female? I have a group of 23 year 9 students doing HTML/CSS coding and Robotics next semester.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Laurie Savage<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">On 28 May 2015 at 09:36, Howard, David <<a href="mailto:dhoward@stmichaels.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">dhoward@stmichaels.vic.edu.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> It is all down to making the courses relevant and exciting for students.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> They don?t want to be doing excel and access. They want to be creating
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> Our numbers are strong and continue to be strong. I have around
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> 30-40% of the Year 9 co-hort who go through the elective subjects. I
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> We do Game Dev in Year 9<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> - HTMl, JS, CSS, mySQL etc in Year 10.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> From: <Wraight>, Timothy J <<a href="mailto:wraight.timothy.j@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">wraight.timothy.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Reply-To: Year List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Date: Thursday, 28 May 2015 9:24 am<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> To: Year List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] A research question...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> I have some strong thoughts on this as well. I think there has been
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> a serious misunderstanding of the difference between ?using? ITC and
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> ?learning? ITC. ITC is now been used very effectively in many areas
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> of education as a learning tool and I think many people think that
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> this means students are ?learning? ITC. But it needs to be remembered
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> that it is just a tool in these situations, used to help impart
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> knowledge and skills of what ever the subject matter is, but you are not learning about it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> ITC is now been used in the same way in the classroom that you would
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> use pens, paper, whiteboards etc. While using these things in an
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> everyday setting a student isn't learning about how the book is made,
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> where the paper came from, and the processes involve in producing it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Yet in our curriculum we have areas in which students learn about
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> these things, they learn about natural resources in science and
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> humanities, they learn how to work with materials such as paper and
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> produce things in art and technology subjects. I believe it is
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> exactly the same with ITC, there is nothing wrong with it being
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> increasingly used as a tool throughout the curriculum but it still
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> needs to be studied seperately, so that students can gain understanding of how it works, what makes it up and where it comes from.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Not only that, studying ITC seperately means that they will be able to
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> use it more effectively when they use it in other subjects. One of
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> the biggest problems I see these days is students (and teachers!) know
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> how to use ITC really well as long as it works as intended. As soon
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> as something goes wrong they are lost, because they have no deeper
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> understanding of it to be able to troubleshoot!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> We need to remember that using ITC is not the same as learning ITC!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> *Tim Wraight*<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a href="mailto:wraight.timothy.j@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">wraight.timothy.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> On 28 May 2015, at 8:33 am, Kent Beveridge <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> My thoughts are simple, with the rise and rise of the iPad and
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> similar technologies, the perceived 'need' for mainstream IT subjects
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> has been undermined and watered down to non importance. Many staff,
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> new young graduates included, give my observations that they feel they 'know it all'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> and hence don't see the importance of a standalone subject.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Attitudes like this have even turned off a recent former student who
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> had aspirations of IT teaching to now not wanting to go there...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Makes me wonder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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