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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Hi all,</span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">It’s a runtime error. If it was a syntax error, then it would be when Alan was typing in the actual code itself. Given he’s typing while the program is running,
 I would assume that it’s a runtime error because it’s looking for a function that does not exist.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Mark [mailto:mark@vceit.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] compiler question</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi David.&nbsp;</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The software's syntax consisted of only 'PUSH' and 'POP', so the entry of an unknown command 'PIP' would be a syntax error from the software's point of view.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3 September 2013 08:41, David Dawson &lt;<a href="mailto:David.Dawson@wesleycollege.net" target="_blank">David.Dawson@wesleycollege.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 2 September 2013 11:19 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">But the trigger of the crash was incorrect syntax of the input into the program (which is acting as a compiler/interpreter)...</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">On 2 September 2013 21:54, Calum Munro &lt;<a href="mailto:munrocs@aquinas.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">munrocs@aquinas.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Andrew,<br>
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I'm with you. The program runs, so no syntax error. The program crashes when given an incorrect input, that's a run time error for me.<br>
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Calum<br>
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On 02/09/2013, at 2:37 PM, &quot;Andrew Pate&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:arp@mentonegrammar.net" target="_blank">arp@mentonegrammar.net</a>&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:arp@mentonegrammar.net" target="_blank">arp@mentonegrammar.net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
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Hi all,<br>
I have purchased the IARTV trial exams and am wondering about one of their multi-choice answers.Your help is, as always, appreciated.<br>
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The question asks about a function written which is called “POP”, but “when testing his stack Alan accidentally types in PIP and the program crashes”.<br>
The multi-choice answers has us choose from runtime error or syntax error.<br>
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They suggest the answer is syntax error (and explain that a name, expression etc…that the compiler cannot understand causes a syntax error)<br>
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Now, if the program IS RUNNING and THEN crashes, does that not imply that it compiled? Therefore, it is a runtime error (where validation of input was not handled) or am I thinking too language specifically?<br>
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