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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Agreed, U4O1 is not required to be a prototype. I look at it this way -- I will give my students an SRS. The scope and constraints will indicate what the solution can and cannot
do. So prototype or not, students must write a solution according to the FRs and NFRs. Their testing is based on those requirements.
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Maggie<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Folks,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> A correction regarding SAC41 – it is not a prototype.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">However there are a number of modifications to a fully deployed solution to run on a mobile device:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">The solution does not have to be implemented on an actual mobile device, but it should conform to the constraints of a mobile device.</span><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"><span style="">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>D<span lang="EN-US">iscuss (not build) security measures that will be necessary to protect the information stored within and communicated between, the mobile software solution and related networks
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"><span style="">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Apply programming skills to create a software solution suitable for use on a mobile device</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"><span style="">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Include internal documentation within the software solution</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"><span style="">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Verify the performance of the software solution by selecting suitable test data and applying testing techniques</span></p>
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Therefore the solution built for the assessment has to meet the above conditions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">My impression was that since the solution does not have to be implemented on an actual device, does not have to have security built in to communicate with related networks then it would fall short of a full-fledged
deployed and implemented solution. In other words some aspects of the solution would be incomplete. Prototype may not be the right term, but the solution is not a full one either. Is a partial solution a prototype ? Is it a working model of a more complete
solution ? It is not important what we call it, but what we actually ask the students to do.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Please refer to the <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/infotechhb-2011-2014.doc" target="_blank">
assessment handbook</a> to ensure all components of Task 1 and Task 2 in Outcome 41 are satisfied when deploying your SAC.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Kind Regards</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kevork Krozian</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">tel: 0419 356 034</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevork Krozian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 August 2012 5:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Sonia,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In Software Development 2 programming SACs are to be undertaken – both prototypes. One is required to be for a mobile device, the other with no restriction as to deployment destination therefore I would expect
( happy to be corrected ) that it could also be for a mobile device. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It is not so much the SDK ( Software Development Kit ) or the IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) but the language that will be the test of approval or disapproval.</span></p>
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The WindowsPhone SDK uses C# which is approved. The XBox XNA environment is also programmed with C# which is also approved. I am told you can write Xbox games in Visual Basic now. See
<a href="http://www.developers-challenges.com/vbarticles/xna-for-visual-basic/41-building-a-xna-game-in-vbnet.html" target="_blank">
http://www.developers-challenges.com/vbarticles/xna-for-visual-basic/41-building-a-xna-game-in-vbnet.html</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The iPhone and iPad applications are written in Objective C usually in the Cocoa framework in the XCode IDE . These are not exclusive eg. you don’t have use Cocoa or Xcode to write Objective C and you can use
Xcode to write in other languages. Interestingly, Cocoa was formerly NextStep hence the reference to objects such as
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Consolas; color:black; background:#EEEEEE">NSString</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black"> and
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Consolas; color:black; background:#EEEEEE">NSObject.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Eclipse is another IDE that is mostly used for programming in java but can be used for other languages see
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software)</a> . </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The list of approved languages can be found at
<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/bulletins/2010/June/vce_study.html#4" target="_blank">
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/bulletins/2010/June/vce_study.html#4</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">These are :</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt; color:black">Basic (object-oriented variations only, e.g. VB.NET)<br>
C++<br>
C#<br>
Objective-C<br>
Pascal (object-oriented variations only, e.g. Delphi)<br>
Java<br>
Perl<br>
PHP<br>
Python<br>
Ruby</span><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think C# would be a good choice for a programming language and IMHO more accessible than Objective C with Xcode for the students.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">For those embarking on Objective C, the best analogy would be trying to learn Mongolian for the first time for someone who is mono lingual ( not programmed before) or trying to learn Arabic for the first time
for someone who is multi lingual ( has programmed before ). This is to write an original piece of software that is reasonably impressive and not replicate an existing program with the variables changed.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Happy to be corrected regarding anything stated here including how hard it is to learn Arabic ( not qualified to comment about Mongolian )</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kind Regards</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kevork Krozian</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Edulists Creator Administrator</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">www.edulists.com.au</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">tel: 0419 356 034</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sonia McDonald<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 August 2012 9:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming...</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">I'm most likely jumping in the middle of a conversation here - but,</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">How likely is it that a language such as WindowsPhone SDK could be included on the list of languages?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">I have used the Xbox SDK, and iOS (for game development outside class time), and these also seem to have interesting/benificial applications - and could be interesting languages
for students to learn (both are OO)...</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">It would be good to see this type of technology appearing on the list...</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">Cheers,</span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">Sonia McDonald</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">Teacher of Information Technology/Multimedia - Garnsey Campus</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black"></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Kent Beveridge [kbeveridge@stbc.vic..edu.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 August 2012 8:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming....</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Sorry..forgot to add this to the possible options for the next "allowed languages" option for SD study design? It's very OO!<br>
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<b>Kent Beveridge</b> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Kent Beveridge <<a href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> 17 August 2012 8:49:27 AM AEST<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>[Year 12 SofDev] WindowsPhone SDK apps and programming.....</b><br>
<b>Reply-To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Wondering how many out there are using or have tried this tool to use with programming or just to build Apps.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I am currently looking at it. I like the emulator interface and actually prefer it to the GoogleAppInventor.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Kent.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Ps. AJ it has XBox tools too! (XNA)<br>
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On 16/08/2012, at 2:37 PM, "Margaret King Iaquinto" <<a href="mailto:iaquinto@ozemail.com.au" target="_blank">iaquinto@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">In pseudocode, END IF does not need to be written. It commonly is -- but it is not required. I recall on past exams in SD that the assessors did not flag this as an error.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I think this is because 'VB-centric' languages (wish I had a better way of describing this phenomenon since so many teachers use VB) require the END IF in the code. But some languages, such as PHP, do not require
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">But perhaps someone else might add to the discussion?</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Hi all. I believe in the VITTA 2012 SD Exam #1 there's a missing END IF to close the last IF in C8b.
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It's not crucial to any of the subsequent questions, but you might want to add it before giving it to the kiddies.<br clear="all">
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