<html><head><base href="x-msg://119/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">go for it Adrian<div>I am on Board</div><div>Just been cruising the udemy course - not what I need to create a course for students but useful for me - I will work though it over the next few weeks</div><div><br></div><div>let me know where, when </div><div><br></div><div>Also I will be at ICTEV conf this Sat- maybe we can meet up during registration time or at lunch?</div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 23/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div fpstyle="1" ocsi="0"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">I am sure my boss would be happy to let me come to Melbourne for a day to be part of this course/collaboration. Feels like we are on a 'freight train' of an idea just now. Or perhaps we could do some planning for this on a weekend or Sat morning sesssion perhaps.</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">We could discuss say...</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">Apps 'out there' already;</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">Android vs iOS vs others.... as platforms for portable device developments...;</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">Hardware people/schools use;</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">Samples of Apps if some have been x-coded to share;</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">Some sample teaching materials(i have the materials from the iOS course from Swinny for example includes screen casts and some pdf's/ppts)...could share these maybe?</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">WARNING...x-code IS a big learning curve item!</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">just some ideas to put 'out there' as a beginning point kiddies....</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">KB.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">are we seeing the beginnings of a new era here??????? (or just a big green monster!)</div><div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "> </p><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; "><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; "><font color="#0000ff" size="3" face="Poor Richard" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Kent Beveridge</font></div><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; "><font color="#3366ff">ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</font></div><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; "><font color="#3366ff"><a href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a></font></div><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; "><font color="#3366ff"></font> </div></div></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; "><hr tabindex="-1"><div id="divRpF807873" style="direction: ltr; "><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on behalf of Andrew Shortell [<a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 23 May 2012 2:18 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)<br></font><br></div><div></div><div>me too<div>Maybe we could organise a group collaboration on creating a course and then all run it in our schools, feedback to each other and create apps we could all use!!</div><div><br></div><div>I would be happy to organise the collaboration if necessary - this woudl be an exciting project "going forward"</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><div><div>Andrew Shortell</div><div>CRC Melton</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net" target="_blank">shortell@get2me.net</a></div><div><br></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div><div>On 23/05/2012, at 2:12 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Me too! 100% iPAD school here too now...plus PC's...<br>Count me in!<br>Kent<br><br>Sent from KB's iPAD.<br><br>On 23/05/2012, at 12:18 PM, "Travis Parker" <<a href="mailto:Travis.Parker@beaconhills.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">Travis.Parker@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Kevork,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The thing with Adrian (And myself) is that our schools have invested a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">large amount of time and money into iPad programs and I checked out<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">appinventor and it seems that they only export to android devices?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There seems to be a text on "App inventing for iPhones" by Graeme<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Summers that I am ordering (Thanks Adrian) and a few of us are trying to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">organise a new year 10 iOS app development course. If anyone is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">interested please speak up!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Trav<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:14 AM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi Adrian,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> This is all very useful to all of our colleagues.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I recently completed an Android app writing PD at Swinburne Uni Hawthorn<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">using appinventor ( see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://appinventor.org" target="_blank">appinventor.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>) and found it very powerful and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">effortless in transferring to a phone or sharing with other phones. For<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">those who don't have a phone an emulator will still allow testing of the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">app on Mac or PC. The resources (software, textbooks, completed apps )<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are free online. The programming environment is a "scratch" type with no<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">actual coding but a GUI to connect objects, add methods, change<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">properties and parameters. This would translate to a Yr 8 to 10 course<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">so much more easily than say writing code in XNA or in Objective C I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">feel.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There are sections on using multi dimensional arrays, saving to a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">database and much more. Is it starting to look like it could slot into<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Software Development as a language ? Of course the coding would have to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">be done in Java for it to be acceptable. There are efforts to provide a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">java view of the Appinventor GUI see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap" target="_blank">http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">but that would need to be clarified for Units 3 and 4 Software<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Development purposes.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> An equally useful discussion would be to compare the competing app<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">writing and programming options. eg. Cost of registering as a devloper ?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">How much will students understand when writing code in a language like<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Objective C or C# for that matter ?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> One of the most useful apps in this series I worked on was "Find my<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">car" which allows recording of the current location using the GPS<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">feature in the phone and then after moving to another location<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">requesting a map showing how to find the car again. This interfaced with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a voice feature where instructions are announced on how to find your way<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">back to the car or if they are in the same spot, the family members you<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">may have lost ......<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> All very exciting ...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Keep well<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Kevork<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Travis,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Apologies for the previous email - I have just transitioned to a new<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">notebook and I had not set up my email signature yet!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I also hope I didn't get your hopes up! - basically what I wanted to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">say is that I have been teaching myself x-code / objective c this year<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and also plan to run an iPhone / iPad dev course in 2013 - I would<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">love to collaborate on something if you are interested?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Adrian<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">eLearning Coordinator<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Australia.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">E-mail:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Website:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Blog:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org" target="_blank">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Behalf Of Travis Parker<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 1:56 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear All,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Now that we have about 2250 iPads floating around the college, I was<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">thinking of implementing an "App Development" course at year 10 next<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">year that will run for a semester. We have also got a lab of 30 iMacs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and was going to use them to create iPad apps (Using XCode???). I was<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wondering whether anyone does anything similar to this currently, or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">has any ideas on what to include. I'd be happy to share and compare<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">notes and experiences with any interested parties.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cheers<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Trav<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Travis Parker<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Head of ICT and E-Learning<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Beaconhills College<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">( 1300 002 225 ext 3016<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">or Direct Dial (03) 5945 3016<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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