Hi Kevork. The wording in the study design is not as clear as many would like it to be. <br><br>And in the assessment book, did you read p.35-36, which covers U4O1? <br>If you read 36-37 you might have been reading U4O2, which also uses a written report or test.<br>
<br>SD U4O1 Task 1 is the solution, including internal documentation.<br><br>SD U4O1 Task 2 Part 1 is the user documentation.<br>SD U4O1 Task 2 Part 2 is the explanation of how security and legal matters are managed using either a written report or a test.<br>
<br>You'd think VCAA could have least started a new sentence to differentiate between the two parts of task 2.<br><br>At least that's how I read it.<br><br>Cheers<br>Mark<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 August 2011 07:54, Kevork Krozian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Mark,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> A careful reading of p 36-37 of the assessment handbook indicates Task 2 is to be completed as either a test or a report. The description of task 2 has 3 components, user doc, security and legal matters. The performance descriptors for achievement level describe performance in all of these 3 components.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> Therefore, I am left scratching my head as to how User Doc can fall outside task 2 or is a separate issue to allocating either a test or report as the mode of assessment and assessing all of user doc, security and legal matters in the one task.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Is the suggestion that user doc can be a report and security and legal a test ? Or that user doc is completed as part of task 1 but allocated a score in task 2 and only questions relevant to security and legal are found in the task 2 document ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I do take your point about the ITA/SD crossover. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mildly confused .......<u></u><u></u></span></p><div class="im">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Kevork Krozian<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Edulists Creator Administrator<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">www.edulists.com.au</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">tel: 0419 356 034<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 15 August 2011 8:25 PM</span></p><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><p></p></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Kevork. My reasoning was that the test/report decision on the legal/security issues knowledge was a 50/50 split, but I wanted my ITA kids who were in SD to get practice in writing extended responses for the anticipated 8-mark questions in the ITA exam.<br>
<br>As Paula mentioned, user documentation is a separate issue.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 14 August 2011 19:39, Kevork Krozian <<a href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">kevork@edulists.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The top score descriptor for Task 2 includes the following:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“User documentation is appropriate, logically sequenced, complete and accurate. Presentation is clear and consistent with generally accepted conventions.”<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Could it be a test would make it hard to deliver this ?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kind Regards<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Kevork Krozian</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Edulists Creator Administrator</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">www.edulists.com.au</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">tel: 0419 356 034</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 14 August 2011 12:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm doing a report. I had a good reason at one stage, but I can't remember it now ;-)<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
On 13 August 2011 19:42, Margaret King Iaquinto <<a href="mailto:iaquinto@ozemail.com.au" target="_blank">iaquinto@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks for that, Mark. No matter how many marks for user doc, I reckon it must be a really focused task for the user doc. I'm thinking of a trouble-shooting guide for a specific process in my case study. Something short and sweet. Are you doing a test or a report for the security/legal?<br>
<br>VK3CFI <br><br><b>On Sat Aug 13 16:17 , Mark KELLY sent:</b><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid whitesmoke 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">For me, 10 for user doc. 5 for security/legal. Pennypinching, I know, but there's little choice...<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 13 August 2011 12:51, Margaret Iaquinto <<a href="mailto:iaquinto@ozemail.com.au" target="_blank">iaquinto@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Task 2 has only 15 marks out of 60 and some marks go to the user<br>documentation. What are people doing for the breakdown in marks with<br>Task 2? The user doc can't be a big task -- but that's OK. And the<br>
remainder of marks are split between security and legal.<br><br>Is it better to have Task 2 relate directly to the case study and SRS of<br>Task 1? Or to have these marks on a new topic(s)?<br><br>Report? Test? Any ideas?<br>
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