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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Kevork</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the IT gurus at our place have had a careful look
at the ipad, are impressed, but are annoyed about the shortcomings and have
decided to wait for a machine who's name I can't remember (may samsung???) that
is going to run google's os - it's ap</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>parently
every bit as good as the ipad without the flash etc issues and will apparently
be released "soon"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert T-A</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=K.Krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au
href="mailto:K.Krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au">Kevork Krozian</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sofdev@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:22
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in
schools</DIV>
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Folks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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for cross posting but very topical for our elearning colleagues
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
have spoken to 3 schools who are doing just this, Ipads at year 7 and when I
raise these concerns with Flash and Java not running I get a blank stare.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Is
there anyone out there who has considered the issues and found a
resolution/workaround or other approach apart from html5 will solve all the
problems which may or may not happen and may or may not take 3 to 5 years
....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Don Morelli (Optus)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 4 November 2010
6:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in
schools<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
decision has been made Allison which is unfortunate for your school as not
only does the iPad not support Flash but it also does not support Java. So you
can’t run java apps like Geogebra in Maths, which is worth its weight in gold.
There are many programs that teachers use to help students to understand
concepts in particular learning areas that are not about communication,
collaboration and research (some of the web 2.0 stuff). These will not run on
the iPad. It will be interesting to see how much of the “cloud computing
software “ will run on it without problems. Try running Mathletics and I
think that you will have a problem with that as well. I am sure that in
the next year or so things will change, but the range of activities that you
can carry out on the iPad now, that have educational value is
limited.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Good
luck in trying to develop a curriculum-at least it is only year
7<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Don <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Allison KENINS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:00
PM<BR><B>To:</B> sofdev@edulists.com.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 SofDev]
Ipad in schools<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">Hi
All<BR><BR>Sorry for not being specific to Software Development. <BR>My school
is introducing iPads to our incoming year 7’s and throwing out the textbooks
in all subjects. As my other method is maths and this is a concern to a few of
the other teachers, I was wondering if anyone else’s school is doing something
similar and wanting to know what you think. Major concern for us is that we
use lots of websites that are Flash based and therefore wont work (as far as
I’ve been told) and we now need to redevelop our year 7 curriculum before the
start of next year.<BR><BR>Any comments would be
welcome.<BR><BR>Allison<BR>Ringwood Secondary College</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
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