Thanks, Adrian and Paula. <br><br>It's reassuring to know where the fences are when you're playing in a new paddock...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 November 2010 16:01, Christophersen, Paula P <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christophersen.paula.p@edumail.vic.gov.au">christophersen.paula.p@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Yep, this is the correct interpretation. As
Adrian has
said, it is about students recognising the tasks that are actually undertaken,
rather than the tools and techniques used to document them.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Adrian Janson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 12 November 2010
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Year
12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
</div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] How
much project management is enough?</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi Mark,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My understanding
(and please Paula correct me if I am wrong!) is:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Gantt and PERT are
NOT examinable in SD.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Critical paths,
slack, predecessors, dependancies, milestones, etc. – and also NOT
examinable. Only the points mentioned in the KK: that is - </span></font>including
identifying, scheduling and monitoring tasks, resources, people and time</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Mind you – in
understanding these things, it might be helpful to discuss PM terms.... I
have not included them in my text.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Use case –
does include <<includes>> and <<extends>> - and I have
included these in my text as well.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Cheers,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Adrian</span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 12 November 2010
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</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi all. In the new
study design, project management has been considerably cut back: in SD and year
11, students are not required to use PM software, and ITA doesn't mention PM at
all.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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SD key knowledge U3O1-02 is "key tasks associated with planning software
projects, including identifying, scheduling and monitoring tasks, resources,
people and time".<br>
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I'm not sure how deep the knowledge needs to be: are critical paths, slack,
predecessors, dependencies, milestones, lag & lead time, Gantt and PERT
examinable? Just because students don't have to use PM software doesn't
necessarily mean they don't have to read a PERT, for example.<br>
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I thought I'd guessed the depth needed for Use Cases until I read the VCAA FAQ,
which had things like <<includes>> which I didn't figure
necessary. <br>
I don't want to be caught out if I cut back PM theory <i><span style="font-style: italic;">too</span></i> far.<br>
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Mark<br>
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