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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes &#8211; that is correct. &nbsp;Perhaps the Access outcome is in the
wrong place&#8230;&nbsp; U4O1 is a programming outcome, but is one that is usually tied to
a database like access, as it should be a network app.&nbsp; Head on over to my
web-site (below) as I have some U4O1&#8217;s there you can use or have a look at for
reference.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Janson, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>VITTA President<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Director of ICT, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Melbourne High School, <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span
style='color:blue'>janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>School WWW: <a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/"><span
style='color:blue'>http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>My WWW: <a href="http://www.adrianjanson.com.au/"><span
style='color:blue'>http://www.adrianjanson.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Blog: <a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/"><span
style='color:blue'>http://jansona.edublogs.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Delicious: <a href="http://delicious.com/adrianjanson/"><span
style='color:blue'>http://delicious.com/adrianjanson/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jolly, Michael D<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] U4-01 help<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Adrian, am I missing somrthing? I have been using the vITTA CD for
my outcomes, and I notice that the U4O1 outcome is for Access, that was a small
mistake? I think I should persist with an extension of my U3O2 using VB .NET,
correct?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mike Jolly</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>IT
Manager - Curriculum</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kyneton
Secondary College</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>03
5421 1100</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>0412
75 1984</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of
Brett Groves<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 22/06/2009 8:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4-01 help</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Adrian you walk on water truly ! I'd love to
use it, no tearing hurry as<br>
we are on theory for this week and then of course then the hols.<br>
<br>
Thanks again<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Brett Groves<br>
<br>
ICT Manager<br>
<br>
Croydon Secondary College<br>
<br>
Ph 9725 8277<br>
<br>
Fax 9723 6375<br>
<br>
Mob 0401 722 023<br>
<br>
Docendo discimus<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Adrian Janson wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi Brett,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am in the process of uploading my materials to my new site &#8211; so<br>
&gt; U4O1: EZX10-Shuns-4U! will be up very shortly if you decide you would<br>
&gt; like to use it?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If so, let me know and I will get a wriggle on &#8211; and upload it for you<br>
&gt; tonight.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Adrian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *Adrian Janson, *<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *VITTA President*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *Director of ICT, *<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Melbourne High School,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; E-mail: janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; School WWW: <a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a>
&lt;<a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My WWW: <a href="http://www.adrianjanson.com.au/">http://www.adrianjanson.com.au</a>
&lt;<a href="http://www.adrianjanson.com.au/">http://www.adrianjanson.com.au/</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Blog: <a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a>
&lt;<a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/">http://jansona.edublogs.org/</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Delicious: <a href="http://delicious.com/adrianjanson/">http://delicious.com/adrianjanson/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; *From:* sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
&gt; [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
*On Behalf Of *Brett Groves<br>
&gt; *Sent:* Monday, 22 June 2009 4:12 PM<br>
&gt; *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
&gt; *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] U4-01 help<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Back to the terror of creating a new semesters work for SD! Adrian and<br>
&gt; all the other contributors make the task so so much easier. My Year<br>
&gt; 12's love ex10shuns4u and have gotten right into it. I am lucky enough<br>
&gt; to have 3 bright programmers but getting them to meet the criteria on<br>
&gt; the written work is challenging. All 3 went well beyond just creating<br>
&gt; a module on the last unit and created full blown applications much to<br>
&gt; my absolute frustration (but secret pride even though they mis<br>
&gt; allocated time away from the written.....grrrr).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am looking for advice on U4. We were considering continuing on with<br>
&gt; and extending (no pun intended) ex10shuns4u by creating an SQL server<br>
&gt; on our network (we have already done this just as as fun how to<br>
&gt; exercise during lunch) and a database of which they are the<br>
&gt; administrators. Then extending their existing applications to exchange<br>
&gt; information from the pda's (we use emulators) to the SQL DB and<br>
&gt; creating an application by which Ladana can generate a properly<br>
&gt; formatted printable quote by taking data from that central SQL DB.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thoughts? Is this suitable or dud idea? Alternatively does anyone<br>
&gt; already have a ready to go U4-01 that they would be merciful enough to<br>
&gt; share with a struggling SD teacher?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kind regards,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brett Groves<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ICT Manager<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Croydon Secondary College<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ph 9725 8277<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Fax 9723 6375<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mob 0401 722 023<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Docendo discimus<br>
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