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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In our school we have a similar
situation where this year we don’t have enough interest in ITA, so we just ran
a SD class only. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Students who have initially elected
to take ITA have a choice to pick something else all together or do SD. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Although I had some students who
were not quite prepared to do programming, all in all it was not too bad. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’d imagine it’d be quite
difficult to run both at the same place, same time, since the focus is so
different.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Next year we have the opposite
situation, and we’re running 2 ITA classes only. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Juliana Pang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>IT/Maths Teacher</span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>East Doncaster
Secondary College</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>20 George Street,
East Doncaster, 3109</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Telephone +61 3 9842
2244<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="mailto:pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">mailto:pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Davies, Brett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 27 October 2008 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Teaching SD and ITA in the same classroom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Yes I did that this
year and it was terrible……I will not do it again, I don’t think I was able to
do the best job for either class<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>EDWARDS. John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 27 October 2008 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Teaching SD and ITA in the same classroom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Hi Everyone,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Since the year 12s have left I thought I might ask this question.
This year I have taught ITA and SD in the same classroom at the same time this
year. I have not been real happy with the way it went so I thought I would ask
if there anyone else in the same predicament and if so how did you handle it?
Or if anyone has some suggestions then I would be most grateful.</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Many Thanks,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>John Edwards</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Lavalla Catholic College</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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