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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes &#8211; agree.&nbsp; But the question
is talking about the SDLC (which is looking at the whole system) and we are
thinking purely about the software (which is developed in the development phase
of the SDLC).&nbsp; OK &#8211; I&#8217;ll be quiet now! </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Janson, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>VITTA President<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Director of ICT, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Melbourne High School, <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span
style='color:blue'>janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Website: <a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au"><span
style='color:blue'>http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Blog: <a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/"><span
style='color:blue'>http://jansona.edublogs.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Quentin Lydall<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 September 2008 12:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'>Well,
my industry experience was that designs had to be produced and signed off by
users before budget was released for development work to start.&nbsp; That
included interfaces, very definitely; they were picky about how they would look
and what functionality they would have!&nbsp; </span></a><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I still think it is in the
Design stage!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>Quentin Lydall<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#365F91'>Head of ICT<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#365F91'>Beaconhills College Valley
Campus<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#365F91'>30-34
Toomuc Valley Road,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#365F91'>Pakenham<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#365F91'>3810<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#365F91'>Phone:(03) 5945
0016<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;
color:green'>P</span><i><span style='color:navy'> </span><span
style='color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing my email</span></i><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Adrian Janson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 September 2008 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Actually on second thoughts I
can see why Development is the suggested answer.&nbsp; It is during the
development phase that the software development itself takes place &#8211; and the
Design phase is really about selecting hardware, software and determining
features of the system rather than getting stuck into details such as
UI&#8217;s.&nbsp; The design phase might determine that a software package needs to
be created and have certain requirements &#8211; and some designs might be created
which represent what the UI should ideally look like.&nbsp; But it is a lot
like a concept sketch of a new house versus a detailed plan of what each of the
rooms will look like.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I change my vote!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Janson, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>VITTA President<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Director of ICT, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Melbourne High School, <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Website: <a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Blog: <a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Janson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 September 2008 11:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Quentin,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The key word would seem to be
&#8216;designing&#8217; so in this respect &#8216;Design&#8217; would be the most correct response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Janson, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>VITTA President<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Director of ICT, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Melbourne High School, <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Website: <a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Blog: <a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Quentin Lydall<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 September 2008 11:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Question 2 of Section B of VITTA &nbsp;sample exam 3, 2007,
(whew!) asks what stage if the SDLC &nbsp;designing the user interface takes
place.&nbsp; The supplied answer is Development.&nbsp; Can someone please help
me explain to my students why it does not happen during the design stage?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!!<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>Quentin Lydall<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#365F91'>Beaconhills College Valley
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