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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=050531101-19052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I have used Nessie (<A
href="http://eii.ucv.cl/nessi/">http://eii.ucv.cl/nessi/</A>) which is
free, quite good, and allows some stepping through of the
code.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=050531101-19052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=050531101-19052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But something which integrates with Word sound
terrific. Any details?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Don Morelli
Optus<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 19, 2008 10:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12
SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 36<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have looked for this
tool on the web and have not been able to find it. Mark, do you have the URL
where you downloaded it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers Don
Morelli<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Fatima Nazar<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, 19 May 2008 10:03
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev
Digest, Vol 39, Issue 36</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Ross</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">In these days of being tied to the
keyboard, no tool is adequate unless it can be automated at the developer’s
desktop. Fortunately there is an excellent NS tool that is even integrated with
Word, allowing NS charts to be treated as objects in a Word document. One simply
types in the pseudo code for the desired NS chart, and out comes a pleasantly
constructed chart. This tool is available from Kast Associates (<A
href="mailto:bobk@legato.com">bobk@legato.com</A>).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">(this is what I read in Mark Kelly's notes but havent
tried it out yet)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hope this helps, let me know if you find more on the
above, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fatima</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Ogilvie, Ross A<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sun 5/18/2008 7:17 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> sofdev@edulists.com.au<BR><B><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
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Fatima,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Regarding....."Did you know that there is a software now
which produces an NS for any written algorithm! how cool is that!"....I'd like
to know what that is.....will help me maybe with the
kids.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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1<BR>Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:22:53 +1000<BR>From: "Ogilvie, Ross A"
<ogilvie.ross.a@edumail.vic.gov.au><BR>Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE:
sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 29<BR>To:
<sofdev@edulists.com.au><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
<29AEA9E952F1F84FBE0633368C696DA916FF53@edusm05.education.vic.gov.au><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Hello <st1:place
w:st="on">Fatima</st1:place>,<BR><BR>I was wondering how you are going with SD
and was considering that we are in a similar boat, it might be valuable for our
students .....and us if we network via email.<BR>Also please feel free to
contact me by phone on the following numbers.<BR><BR>Work:
ogilvie.ross.a@edumail.vic.gov.au<BR>Home:
changer@nex.net.au<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Ross Ogilvie<BR>LSF ICT
Leader<BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Sunbury</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><BR><st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">30 Racecourse Rd</st1:address></st1:Street>,
Sunbury 3429<BR>Ph (W) 9744 1066 <BR> (H)
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Nazar)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
1<BR>Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:42:34 +1000<BR>From: "Fatima Nazar"
<fnazar@sfx.vic.edu.au><BR>Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest,
Vol 39, Issue 27<BR>To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
List"<BR>
<sofdev@edulists.com.au><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
<B9AB0C08DF83504DAF202040E2C035E056BA7A@exch-mail.curric.stfx><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Hey Ross,<BR>It is so crazy, specially
because I am the only one teaching SD at my school and no one to bounce off
ideas with.<BR><BR>We are using Vb.net and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>'s book is proving to be very useful for
programming - do you find that your boy students (i have only 1 girl in two
classes of boys) either want to play games or do coding, pushing in theory is
like putting them on a waxing table! they cringe so bad at theory. And no one
wants to read. I usually take a quiz every lesson (a short one) so that they can
recall and retain stuff.<BR><BR>I will be starting my SAC2 in wk8, I dont know
if I am doing good time or behind :)<BR><BR>Did you know that there is a
software now which produces an NS for any written algorithm! how cool is
that!<BR><BR>Cheers<BR><st1:place
w:st="on">Fatima</st1:place><BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From:
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Ogilvie, Ross A<BR>Sent: Thu
15/05/2008 7:58 PM<BR>To: sofdev@edulists.com.au<BR>Subject: RE: sofdev Digest,
Vol 39, Issue 27<BR><BR><BR>Thats what I thought Fatima. I'm new to SD as
well..........how are you going?<BR>Getting my head around SAC2 at the
moment......have managed to get up to speed with programming in VB for the
software module.....just have to get my head around testing tables, validation
and N/S (Nazi) diagrams...(Don't mention the
war!!!!!!)<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Ross Ogilvie<BR>LSF ICT Leader<BR><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Sunbury</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><BR><st1:Street
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Sunbury 3429<BR>Ph (W) 9744 1066 <BR> (H)
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1<BR>Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:55 +1000<BR>From: "Lisa Chadderton"
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Design Day: Units 2 & 4<BR>To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List"<BR>
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VCE IT are invited to share in the *VCE<BR>IT Day: Units 2 & 4* experience
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design with your students.<BR><BR>*Date:* Friday 15th February<BR>*Venue:* The
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
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w:st="on">Carlton</st1:place></st1:City> (Malways 2B C9)<BR>*Time:* 8:30am -
3:15pm<BR><BR>*Sessions:*<BR>1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum
and the assessment (Paula<BR>Christophersen - VCAA)<BR>2) Choose *two* of the
following three sessions:<BR> - Year 11 Unit 2 - IT Pathways
Outcomes 1 - 3<BR> - Software Development Unit 4 Outcomes 1
& 2<BR> - ITA Unit 4 Outcomes 1 &
2<BR><BR>*Cost:*<BR>VITTA Individual Members - $195<BR><st1:place
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- $260<BR><BR>Register online at www.vitta.org.au/events or call the VITTA
office on 9495<BR>6836 for more information.<BR><BR>*Please note.* This event is
a sequal to the VCE IT Day: Units 1 & 3 held in<BR>February of this year. If
you have already registered for both days, there<BR>is no need to re-register.
You will be sent a reminder/ confirmation email<BR>shortly. Those of you who did
not attend the initial day in February are<BR>still welcome to attend the VCE IT
Day: Units 2 & 4 as it is not necessary<BR>to attend both and materials are
independant.<BR><BR>See you there<BR>Lisa<BR><BR>--<BR>______<BR>Lisa
Chadderton<BR>Senior Project Officer<BR>VITTA<BR>P: +61 3 9495 6836<BR>F: +61 3
9495 6834<BR>M: 0402522596<BR>E: lisa@vitta.org.au<BR>W:
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2<BR>Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:39:43 +1000<BR>From: "Fatima Nazar"
<fnazar@sfx.vic.edu.au><BR>Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study
Design Day: Units 2 & 4<BR>To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
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<B9AB0C08DF83504DAF202040E2C035E056BA75@exch-mail.curric.stfx><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Hi Lisa,<BR><BR>I am interested but the
date is 15th feb? has this already happened?<BR><BR><st1:place
w:st="on">Fatima</st1:place><BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From:
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Lisa Chadderton<BR>Sent: Thu
5/15/2008 2:26 PM<BR>To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List;
year11it@edulists.com.au<BR>Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day:
Units 2 & 4<BR><BR><BR>Do you need to refresh your VCE IT Units 2 & 4
skills? Do you want to learn from experienced teachers who are operating in the
classroom? New and experienced teachers of Year 11 and 12 VCE IT are invited to
share in the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 experience and gain the knowledge you
need to implement the ITA, SD and Unit 2 IT study design with your
students.<BR><BR>Date: Friday 15th February<BR>Venue: The <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Melbourne</st1:PlaceName>, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">ICT</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Building</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, <st1:address
w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">111 Barry Street</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Carlton</st1:City></st1:address> (Malways 2B C9)<BR>Time: 8:30am -
3:15pm<BR><BR>Sessions:<BR>1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum and
the assessment (Paula Christophersen - VCAA)<BR>2) Choose two of the following
three sessions:<BR> - Year 11 Unit 2 - IT Pathways Outcomes 1
- 3<BR> - Software Development Unit 4 Outcomes 1 &
2<BR> - ITA Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2<BR><BR>Cost:<BR>VITTA
Individual Members - $195<BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">VITTA</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">School</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> Members - $230<BR>Non-VITTA Members
- $260<BR><BR>Register online at www.vitta.org.au/events or call the VITTA
office on 9495 6836 for more information.<BR><BR>Please note. This event is a
sequal to the VCE IT Day: Units 1 & 3 held in February of this year. If you
have already registered for both days, there is no need to re-register. You will
be sent a reminder/ confirmation email shortly. Those of you who did not attend
the initial day in February are still welcome to attend the VCE IT Day: Units 2
& 4 as it is not necessary to attend both and materials are
independant.<BR><BR>See you there<BR>Lisa<BR><BR>--<BR>______<BR>Lisa
Chadderton<BR>Senior Project Officer<BR>VITTA<BR>P: +61 3 9495 6836<BR>F: +61 3
9495 6834<BR>M: 0402522596<BR>E: lisa@vitta.org.au<BR>W: www.vitta.org.au <<A
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<fnazar@sfx.vic.edu.au><BR>Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC<BR>To:
"Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
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<B9AB0C08DF83504DAF202040E2C035E056BA77@exch-mail.curric.stfx><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Thanx heaps to Donald and Kevin for
sending me the instructions for file permissions! peace has been restored
:)<BR><BR>and we have now logged the valuable information for future
use!<BR><BR>cheers<BR><st1:place
w:st="on">fatima</st1:place><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From:
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevin Feely<BR>Sent: Thu 5/15/2008
11:30 AM<BR>To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR>Subject:
Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC<BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi Fatima,<BR>I think with the full
trust you will be successful<BR>regards<BR>kev<BR><BR><BR>Fatima Nazar
wrote:<BR>> Hi Kevin,<BR>><BR>> thanx for this document. We (the
tecnician and I ) downloaded<BR>> somethign very similar from the net
and tried to give permissions (for<BR>> reading and writing) but the file
path was c:\ and none of us teachers<BR>> and students can write on the c:
drive. We have S/H/T drives where we<BR>> do all our work.<BR>><BR>>
When Nathan (our technician) uses the programmer logged as a local<BR>>
administrator the programs work for him, but as soon as we try it on<BR>> the
network drive we get the permissions error.<BR>><BR>> We didnt do the full
trust bit as mentioned in your document and will<BR>> try it
tommorrow<BR>><BR>> Thanx once again<BR>><BR>> <st1:place
w:st="on">Fatima</st1:place><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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*From:* sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevin Feely<BR>> *Sent:*
Wed 14/05/2008 3:54 PM<BR>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List<BR>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC<BR>><BR>> Hi
<st1:place w:st="on">Fatima</st1:place>,<BR>> It can be a network trust
problem<BR>> Can you write the text file to c:?<BR>> If so the following
mod could help<BR>> This should not affect any other security issues as it
only refers to<BR>> the vb net programs<BR>> regards<BR>>
Kevin<BR>><BR>><BR>> Fatima Nazar wrote:<BR>> > hi guys,<BR>>
><BR>> > I am new to SD and have been caught in the permissions error
whenever<BR>> > I or my students try to write in a txt file. We have spent
two days<BR>> > and cant seem to find any solution. I have run the same
program at<BR>> > home and it runs smoothly, can anyone help me? (We are
using Vb.Net<BR>> > 2005, express edition). I did go on the net and
printed something that<BR>> > has to be done in my .net framework - but my
it technician is worried<BR>> > about a whole bunch of security issues !
if you have come across this<BR>> > error can you please send me some
advice?<BR>> ><BR>> > Regards<BR>> > <st1:place
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<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
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