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we keep in mind that this is an open list and students do subscribe to it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color:navy'> West 3055</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ph: (03) 9387 2051</span></font><font
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>FAX: (03) 9387 3470</span></font><font
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color:navy'>: 0409 428 221</span></font><font color=navy><span
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Russo, Frank R<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 19 December 2007
11:26 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev]
Study score of 48 - one of my students got </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think you hit the nail on the head there
Harry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is the 1<sup>st</sup> year in 20 yrs
of teaching that I haven&#8217;t got at least one A or A+.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Frank Russo</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ICT ~ Teaching &amp; Learning</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2
  color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>Monterey</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font size=2 color=navy
 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Schlanger, Harry P<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 18 December 2007
7:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev]
Study score of 48 - one of my students got </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi Frank, I did my Practicum at <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Monterey</st1:City></st1:place> in 2004. The kids
there were wilder than at other schools I've visited. Maybe&nbsp;the lower
socio-eco is&nbsp;a factor for lower motivation?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Harry Schlanger</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
  face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Belmont</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> HS</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Phone: 5243 5355</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
on behalf of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Russo, Frank R</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 12/18/2007 9:53 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev]
Study score of 48 - one of my students got </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Harry I wish some of mine got going&#8230;&#8230;.I
ended up with 9 students.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The best being a score of 34, with a B+ on
the exam then 31, 26, 24, 23 the rest were ungraded due to the lack of meeting
deadlines.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You put in you get out&#8230;.IPO.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Frank</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Frank Russo</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ICT ~ Teaching &amp; Learning</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2
  color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>Monterey</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font size=2 color=navy
 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Schlanger, Harry P<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 17 December 2007
5:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> sofdev@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 SofDev] Study
score of 48 - one of my students got </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi Folks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Out of 13 starters for VCE Software Development at <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Belmont</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">High School</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, 6 dropped out, my remaining
7 students all passed, although I was concerned about two of them</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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given the opportunity to do well, then they can, it's up to them. Sometimes,
during the year&nbsp;I thought I was&nbsp;harder-working then they were, lol,
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