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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for replies - David also.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So the issue to me is the SD's use of the word
'utility'</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Are compilers and interpreters examples
of utilities? I have never thought of them as such.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I can certainly see that specialised editors for working
with php etc could be classified as a utility.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But all of the other stuff mentioned - debuggers,
breakpoints, debuggers, linkers, loaders - are usually part of the functionality
of today's programming environments. On that basis, I don't think of them as a
utility. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>What I have got out of this is that our students need
to be able to name and describe the funtions of these integrated functions,
regardless of what we call them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=425131805-14062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks. Frank</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Adrian
Janson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 14 June 2007 3:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12
SofDev] FW: U4O1 question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Frank,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In terms of the SAC
itself – base your criteria on the key skills. The key knowledge is
broader than what needs to be internally assessed – but as you have stated,
students need to be familiar with the key knowledge for the exam.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As for
</SPAN></FONT>"<FONT face=Times-Roman color=#20231e><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="COLOR: #20231e; FONT-FAMILY: Times-Roman">applications and purposes of
utilities in a programming environment", my understanding of this is that is
refers to the various tools that you use when programming such as editors,
debuggers, compilers, interpreters etc. – as opposed to linkers and loaders
(which I will not be covering). As you have pointed out, these ‘utilities’ are
in fact integrated into most good programming languages GUI’s nowadays – but
students still need to be aware of them and what purpose/s they have.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #20231e; FONT-FAMILY: Times-Roman">Hope this
helps!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Times-Roman color=#20231e size=3><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #20231e; FONT-FAMILY: Times-Roman">PS: I will be
posting my U4O1 to the list soon as well as my assessment criteria sheet – will
these be of help?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Frank Van Den Boom<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 14 June 2007 3:00
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
sofdev@edulists.com.au<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Year 12 SofDev] FW: U4O1 question</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Folks - I didn't get
any replies to this question. It is something we could be examined about, but I
honestly don't know what it is on about......</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I could not find it
specifically treated in the Janson text. Allan Barnes' text talks about linkers
and loaders, which I don't think are relevant in today's programming
environment, but I could be wrong. Any insights would be
appreciated.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Frank<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Frank Van
Den Boom <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, 12
June 2007 3:26 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
'sofdev@edulists.com.au'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> U4O1
question</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Folks - one of the key knowledge points in U4O1 is
"</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Times-Roman color=#20231e><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="COLOR: #20231e; FONT-FAMILY: Times-Roman">applications and purposes of
utilities in a programming environment".</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Times-Roman color=#20231e size=3><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #20231e; FONT-FAMILY: Times-Roman">I haven't done
any serious programming for 15 years, and honestly wouldn't know of any
utilities currently used for this purpose. Linkers, loaders and editors
(utilities of the distant past) are all integrated these days. Any
suggestions?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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