[Year 12 SofDev] Fwd: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
Andrew Shortell
shortell at get2me.net
Wed Nov 2 19:42:56 AEDT 2016
as a courtesy to Lucas
Andrew Shortell
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: "Garth, Lucas A" <garth.lucas.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
> Date: 2 November 2016 4:24:30 pm AEDT
> To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List" <informatics at edulists.com.au>
> Cc: "Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List" <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
> Reply-To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List" <informatics at edulists.com.au>
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> Good afternoon,
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> I’m copying and pasting screenshots of what I’ve got in my Resource Kit folder. Hopefully they go through the edulists system successfully. If someone can check that the information is correct that would be great, as well as if someone can forward this onto the soft dev edulists.
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> Cheers
> Lucas
> Lalor SC
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Vear, Gary D
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 4:02 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
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> Hi all,
>
> I can confirm that our school ordered and received the DLTV Resource Kit as well as the update (which includes the Soft Dev and Informatics practice exams), but it does not appear that we received a Unit 2 (Computing) exam either originally or as an update. Now would be a great time for that to be made available to those who purchased it (our Yr 11 exams start next week!).
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> I'm also wondering what else we might have missed out on. Does anyone have a full list of what the DLTV Resource Kit is meant to include? Were there two versions of the Resource Kit: perhaps one for Units 1 & 2 and another for Units 3 & 4? I tried to look on the DLTV website for details but it looks like it is currently down. Probably not the best time for this to happen.
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> Thanks,
> Gary
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] on behalf of Garth, Lucas A [garth.lucas.a at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:garth.lucas.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 1:36 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> Hi Cameron and other teachers,
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> The DLTV resource kit folder that I’ve kept updated during the year has a Unit 2 (i.e. Computing) examination:
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> You should have files called:
> DLTV16 _ Computing _ Exam _ Unit 2 _ A.docx
> &
> DLTV16 _ Computing _ Exam _ Unit 2 _ A Solutions.docx
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> If you don’t and can prove that you have purchased the DLTV resource kit, I’d be happy to provide you with a copy off list.
>
> Lucas
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Cameron Ross
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2016 11:03 AM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
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> Hi Lucas and others,
>
> The only update I received on that day had the heading as below
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> However, I don’t have access to the Unit 2 Exams, any suggestions?
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> Kind Regards,
>
> Cameron Ross
> House Coordinator / VCE Computing Teacher
> Year 10 Tutor
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Garth, Lucas A
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 10:08 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <informatics at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics at edulists.com.au>>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> Hi Heath and others...
>
> There was an update to the resource kit. It was from Phil Brown and you might be able to find it in your e-mail archives by this header information:
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> ***************************************
> From: Phil Brown [mailto:phil at dltv.vic.edu.au <mailto:phil at dltv.vic.edu.au>]
> Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016 8:03 PM
> To: mel at dltv.vic.edu.au <mailto:mel at dltv.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Update to the resource Kit
> ***************************************
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> In terms of exams that I currently have as part of the DLTV pack there's two Unit 1 exams, and one Unit 2 exam, plus a Unit3/4 sample exam.
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> All have been useful for preparing my students for their end of year exam (for the Year 11s I like to write my own especially for U3 U4 because our Python content would be less UI intensive as other teaching units)
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> If you wanted to use the DLTV unit 1 and 2 exam as an end of year exam, it's pretty decent to get students across the content. I think it's a little too much databases and not enough data visualisation in the questions, but if you use it as a template and then add a few of your own questions it can work.
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> The Year 12 DLTV exam was good to hand out to students because let's face it, you run out of practice exams very quickly for your best students. The most important feature for me was another case study to get stuck into. You can't do enough practices with this format before the actual exam. I'm near certain we will have low results for the last few case study questions because of the increased number of questions posed in this study design - MUCH more of a time management test this time. (Thankfully the students have studied project management and can allocate their time effectively :) - and now also have something worthwhile to do in reading time - it takes a good 15 minutes to read a 40 page exam)
>
> Lucas
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Matheson, Heath A
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 2:16 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> On the same topic. I've been trying to get in touch with DLTV for the last four weeks. No answer and they use the 10 second message converted to text! No reply to e-mails. I was beginning to think that the organisation had gone under but I did get the newsletter last week. I have not received any updates to the resource pack since purchase and am wondering if there is a VCE exam in there now? I'm not feeling very supported by the organisation. Perhaps I'm just unlucky.
>
> Heath
> Mt Beauty
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:58 PM
> To: 'Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
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> Seem to be two issues here: copyright and service or lack thereof.
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> Re copyright: Of course you are correct that people should not be copying materials and giving them to others who have not "paid" for them.
> BUT people do get frustrated when they cannot access materials they have paid for and cannot get a timely response from the providers, be that book publishers or DTLV. The copyright act used to contain a provision allowing copying under these circumstances.
> (I must get back to that science teacher at Morwell High who was foolish enough to give her science class, including my son, a test handwritten by me at Mirboo North.)
>
> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> Retired
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>
> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Bass, Gary S
> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 2:58 PM
> To: informatics at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics at edulists.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] informatics Digest, Vol 12, Issue 68
>
> Greetings
>
> i am not sure taking out on others is the appropriate response to lack of action since February.
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> On this list several times, mention has been made of access to answers to chapter questions, end of chapter quiz and SAT/SAC examples with suggested solutions.
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> This is the benefit of booklisting.
> Your local Resources manager(Librarian?) will have these details.
>
> Every year teachers need to renew their access codes and class codes.
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> This procedure is well established for several years (six i think) Asking for clearly copyrighted materials is a serious indiscretion, without getting into the legalities of the consequent action if anyone responds.
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> Book sellers at present are getting around booklisting, not responding to current teachers with requests for current courses, after their students have finished classes.
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> Google may be your friend, as was napster, bit-torrent and pirate bay, however we are over those now. ..
> Under bright light of day anyway.
>
> Gary Bass
> DECV
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> > On 30 Oct 2016, at 12:00 PM, informatics-request at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-request at edulists.com.au> wrote:
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:08:07 +0000
> > From: "Mekail, Nagla N" <mekail.nagla.n at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:mekail.nagla.n at edumail.vic.gov.au>>
> > Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> > To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List"
> > <informatics at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics at edulists.com.au>>
> > Message-ID:
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> > <265F662487B07F44B28B4D72D3CB1E403B65C94A at EDUMBX09.education.vic.gov.a <mailto:265F662487B07F44B28B4D72D3CB1E403B65C94A at EDUMBX09.education.vic.gov.a>
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> > you are right Vera, I had to ring and then emailed the consultant
> > person
> who wasn't available so I had to email two other consultants till one of them emailed me the code, I am totally agree with you, they made it hard. It is frustrated me as well because I wanted to give it to my students before their last day.
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> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Nagla
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>
> > [informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] on behalf of Vera Cook
> > [vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au <mailto:vcook at mscw.vic.edu.au>]
> > Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 7:48 AM
> > To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> >
> > I agree Mark, and normally I would not say anything but most schools
> booklist the text book which in turn gives them access to the materials however many of their staff do not send access codes to the schools even when they are requested. The delay in the text book also stressed many teachers due to the delay and I did not get one until nearly the end of term one and that was after our librarian had to ring and email to ask why we did not have them. I know we only have a small group of students studying Informatics but they need to make it easier for us to obtain the resources which according to their own system that we are entitled to. With my new lap top trying to reset the password took ages as I kept getting blocked due to our firewall and it was incredibly frustrating. Then waiting for resources that have been paid for to arrive which I am sure I am not the only person with 12s finished for the year. One of our resources we were invoiced twice and am still waiting for r!
> > esources. I have never felt more exhausted due to all this happening.
> >
> > It may be beneficial if Nelson created a teacher version of the text
> > book
> with access codes etc to relieve the pressure of us teachers who don?t have the time to keep chasing up ordered resources.
> >
> > Has anyone else had the same issues this year. I have been teaching
> > for 20
> years and have never spent as much time ringing, emailing and trying to chase up resources that have been paid for or that we are entitled to.
> >
> > It?s bad enough I was lucky enough to witness a person run over by a
> > car
> in Melbourne now I have had my first whinge for I don?t know how long.
> >
> > Please rebut me now?.
> >
> > Vera
> >
> > From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>
> > [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Mark
> > Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 3:42 PM
> > To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> > <informatics at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics at edulists.com.au>>
> > Subject: Re: [Informatics] Nelson exam and answers
> >
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I am the Edulist Moderator here. You may not believe that, but I even
> have a shiny official badge*.
> >
> > While it's really nice to be helpful to the community, please remember
> that Nelson/Cengage material is their intellectual property and is protected by the Copyright Act 1968.
> >
> > It is not fair or kind to Kevork to use his Edulist to share
> > copyrighted
> material.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Moderator Mark
> >
> >
> > *Kevork - please send badge.
> >
>
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