[Year 12 SofDev] Event Driven Programming
Robert Hallworth
hallworth.r at wcc.vic.edu.au
Wed Oct 21 08:19:28 AEDT 2015
Hi Laurie
After reading answers to my initial question and some further research I believe that POST or GET variables from a web form being received by a PHP page after a button click counts as event information being broadcast. I think this satisfies the course programming requirement and certainly illustrates the concept.
There are far more elaborate modules that can be added to PHP but I do not believe this is necessary.
regards
Robert K Hallworth
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Laurie Savage
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2015 7:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Event Driven Programming
Hi Robert,
Does a button click on a form count as an "event"? Like you I use PHP.
Laurie Savage
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On 19 October 2015 at 08:51, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au<mailto:Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au>> wrote:
Doing a bit of digging into these levels, I came across this site.
Although the names are slightly different, I think he explains it quite clearly – I’m going to go through it with my students as we get into some of the more challenging programming concepts. http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AReminderOnThreeMultiTierLayerArchitectureDesignBroughtToYouByMyLateNightFrustrations.aspx
Cheers
Damien
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From: Maria-ana Sanchez [mailto:maria-ana-sanchez at hotmail.com<mailto:maria-ana-sanchez at hotmail.com>]
Sent: Sunday, 18 October 2015 8:34 AM
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Thanks!
I was panicking then...
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On 18 Oct 2015, at 08:26, Christophersen, Paula P <christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Hi folks
No the layers are just organisers of programming requirements. They are there to just group or classify requirements and this might help teachers when they are developing designs for working modules for U3O1. The layers as such are not assessable.
This grouping of requirements might also assists students when developing their solutions to their need or opportunity in U302.
What's important are the programming requirements - the classifications are provided as scaffolding for teaching and learning, but not assessment.
Regards
Paula
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Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2015 7:07 PM
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Hi all,
Forgive my ignorance... but these terms 'interface layer', 'logic layer', 'data source layer' are not in the study design? So the idea of 'layers of solution' is a new one. Are SD teachers supposed to teach this - and if so - it isn't actually examinable as it's not mentioned in a KK point anywhere (unless it is inferred as being part of application architecture??) - even so - not explicitly mentioned!!
Cheers,
Adrian
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:24:57 +0000
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Event Driven Programming
Hi All,
My short answer on the use of PHP and Java as languages that can be used is YES. But I think you need to look at the language requirements in a bit more depth than what we have been used to in the past.
The new language requirements are not simply list of languages, but a description that allows us to use the appropriate languages/technologies for each layer of solution the students will develop. So as an example, students could develop a solution that uses:
• HTML (with Java Script) as the “Interface Layer”
• PHP (as it was originally developed) for the “Logic Layer”, and
• Some variant of a dB (MS-SQL, MYSQL, NOSQL, …) for the “Data Source Layer”, or
• Follow the current application model/pattern for “Universal Apps” (if you are like me and live on the Micro$oft stack https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/xaml/dn726767.aspx )
Of course I could also see many other application patterns using:
• files (text, XML, JSON, dB, web-services, …) for data storage/access,
• StoredProc’s, web services, etc… from dB servers as part of a solutions “Logic Layer”.
Lastly my read on the “no dB in the Interface Layer”, is to solve the problem of a solution just being built in “MS Access”, ”Filemaker”, etc… - i.e. Access forms and reports and a wizard produced solution.
Only my two cents worth.
Regards
Chris Bucknell
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Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2015 1:12 PM
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What about Java?
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On 17 Oct 2015, at 12:35, Robert Hallworth <hallworth.r at wcc.vic.edu.au<mailto:hallworth.r at wcc.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
Just looking at the VCAA on language requirements.
“use objects, methods and event-driven programming functions.”
PHP has been my language of choice BUT does not support “event-driven programming” .. well not easily. Does that mean I can’t use PHP?
What other languages are popular that satisfies this?
ALSO what does “Note that databases are not to be used in the interface layer.” mean?? Can I use MySQL in logic layer or NOT??
Robert K Hallworth
Waverley Christian College
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