[Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution

Mark KELLY kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Thu Jun 30 15:22:30 EST 2011


LOTS of screenshots is the way to go - makes explanations clearer and takes
less reading. It wins both ways.
Get the kids practising their screenshots and doing basic cropping.

On 30 June 2011 13:55, Juliana Pang <pang.juliana.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>wrote:

> Phew, I am glad I have been doing the right thing all along then. It was
> the same thing even with the old study design. ****
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> Though taking all your comments into account, this time I think I’ll just
> ask my students to do a one page website with anchors. ****
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> Something quick and simple.****
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> With the other question - our unit 3 finished on the 10th June; just
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Christophersen, Paula P
> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 June 2011 11:19 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution**
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> Dear Mark and colleagues****
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> As Claudia and you have correctly stated, students are required to create
> user documentation, using software, and explain security and legal matters
> in one of two forms: report or test. ****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Mark KELLY
> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:56 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution**
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> Yes, the wording in the design is not the best.  As I see it, task 2 as
> having two things to do...
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> Thing 1 - User documentation, produced with software.
> Thing 2 - An explanation of security and legal matters in the form of a
> test or written report.
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> The User Documentation has nothing to do with the test/report format - how
> *could* you create user documentation as a test??
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> Cheers
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> On 29 June 2011 14:16, Claudia Graham <
> claudia.graham at overnewton.vic.edu.au> wrote:****
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> Just a clarification,  there is still an expectation that user
> documentation is created and software is used to create it.  ****
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> This appears in KK for the outcome and in the assessment guide.  It is also
> on pg. 45 where it indicates the software tools to be used for each outcome.
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> You could not just ask test questions about user documentation.****
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> I do agree though that you would not be spending too much time on it, as
> you do need to think of the weighting of marks across the assessment tool.
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Matheson, Heath A
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:54 PM****
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> The user documentation component is task 2 of the outcome. This is stated
> as needing to be a test or written report and only worth 15 out of the 60
> marks so should be much faster to complete than task 1 . I think most will
> do a test as the more exam type practise students get the better, and tests
> are easy to correct and out of the way in one class. This report/test also
> needs to cover security and legal issues such copyright, privacy acts etc.
>  For task 1  (the program) only internal documentation is required. ****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Juliana Pang
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:16 AM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution**
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> Well Mark said we still need the input form, and the validation for that as
> well. Would that be enough scope then?****
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> It’s much nicer to use a 2D array and text file then when we tried to
> connect an Access database to the VB front end previously. That was messy
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> What are you all using for the user documentation? Is it suffice to ask
> students to make a simple “online help” website using Dreamweaver? In
> previous years I have asked them to compile the help file webpages using
> HTML help or something like that, created an index, and produced a .chm
> file. That was an overhead and students ended up spending more than the 10
> periods allocated for U4O1. ****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Kent Beveridge
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:12 AM
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> Is this all that's needed for the solution to this outcome? Seems 'not
> much' given what my background is..(I kinda expected 'pages' of code
> compared to this...).****
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> Or do I just set the bar too high???****
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> btw...I like the code Juliana has produced..nice!  Its even in VB which
> makes(for me) it even better...****
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> I knew jumping on this list would reveal some gems! I look forward to
> sharing when I make my own...****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Juliana Pang [pang.juliana.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 June 2011 2:47 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution**
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> Thanks for the task Mark – it’s been pretty interesting and I have gotten
> my students to start working on this. ****
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> I have created a sample solution, it’s little different to yours as I asked
> the students to make the text file as: ****
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> Alex,56,45,78****
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> Beth,100,98,95****
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> Colin,56,79,82****
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> Darcy,97,89,60****
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> Egbert,62,71,62****
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> So the records are going sideways and the scores are already percentages.
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> There’s no input forms yet on mine for the teacher to add more students. *
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> By the way, for the actual U4O1 task, do we need some sort of input form
> where students will write to a text file, as they are marked on validation
> techniques?****
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Kent Beveridge
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 June 2011 9:27 AM
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Mark KELLY [kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 June 2011 6:17 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution****
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> Where's my speaking trumpet? Hello folks. Calling folks.
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> Attached is a VB 2010 solution to the class data task for U4O1 that I upped
> earlier. It contains sample code, screenshot of the form, and a text data
> file.
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> May your camels be bountiful, but not too cute: that way madness lies.
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> Mark
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