[Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Wed Nov 17 12:32:30 EST 2010

Hi Kevork,

I looked at the Ultranet from my iPad and it worked but the results
weren't very pretty. The menu came up, but stayed up and made using any
link or button towards the bottom difficult. And terribly slow!

I quite like my iPad now, but I had to stop thinking of it as something
to create content with but as something to consume content with. As that
it is great.

Catherine Kneen

Year 7 Teacher Team Leader

Coomoora Campus,

Keysborough College

15-39 Coomoora Rd

Springvale South 3172

Phone: 97986366

Fax: 97986212

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2010 11:23 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hi Chris,

Our AP walked in with one of 3 Ipads in our school to show how his
daughter's primary school had taken to the Ultranet and the menu does
come up in Safari in the Ipad.

Is it detecting the  browser type and sending out the page that is
compatible for it ?

Not sure of any other areas that may not work. 

Kevork Krozian

Digital Learning Manager

Forest Hill College

www.fhc.vic.edu.au

tel: 0419 356 034

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Chris Ellis
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2010 7:41 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

A simple solution for ipads using the Ultranet is for the developers to
remove that stupid, annoying, badly designed and interfering pop up
flash menu at the bottom of the screen. Apparently that is the only
component requiring flash, apart from the IDAM backend.

And yes, I also believe flash is a dying, dead-end technology. This
article <http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/11/flasher-on-the-loose/>  gives
some insight into the issues.

Cheers

Chris Ellis

eLearning Coordinator

Ultranet Lead User

Lorne-Aireys Inlet P-12 College

ellis.christopher.l at edumail.vic.gov.au

On 14/11/2010, at 8:03 PM, Kevork Krozian wrote:

Hi Robert,

Here is a post earlier :

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au 
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]

On Behalf Of Peter Hatigan

Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:20 PM

To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List

Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Android tablets are the way to go. They do Flash so will run Ultranet,
ABC View, thousands of websites.

The Android OS is the google one that you were thinking of I expect.

Kind Regards

Kevork

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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Timmer-Arends
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2010 11:31 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hello Kevork

the IT gurus at our place have had a careful look at the ipad, are
impressed, but are annoyed about the shortcomings and have decided to
wait for a machine who's name I can't remember (may samsung???) that is
going to run google's os - it's apparently every bit as good as the ipad
without the flash etc issues and will apparently be released "soon"

Regards

Robert T-A

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	From: Kevork Krozian <mailto:K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au> 

	To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
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	Cc: elearning Teachers' Mailing List
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	Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:22 AM

	Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

	Hi Folks,

	Sorry for cross posting but very topical for our elearning
colleagues ...

	I have spoken to 3 schools who are doing just this, Ipads at
year 7 and when I raise these concerns with Flash and Java not running I
get a blank stare.

	Is there anyone out there who has considered the issues and
found a resolution/workaround or other approach apart from html5 will
solve all the problems which may or may not happen and may or may not
take 3 to 5 years ....

	Kind Regards

	Kevork

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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Don Morelli (Optus)
	Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:45 PM
	To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
	Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

	The decision has been made Allison which is unfortunate for your
school as not only does the iPad not support Flash but it also does not
support Java. So you can't run java apps like Geogebra in Maths, which
is worth its weight in gold. There are many programs that teachers use
to help students to understand concepts in particular learning areas
that are not about communication, collaboration and research (some of
the web 2.0 stuff). These will not run on the iPad. It will be
interesting to see how much of the "cloud computing software " will run
on it without problems.  Try running Mathletics and I think that you
will have a problem with that as well.  I am sure that in the next year
or so things will change, but the range of activities that you can carry
out on the iPad now, that have educational value is limited.

	Good luck in trying to develop a curriculum-at least it is only
year 7

	Cheers Don

	From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Allison KENINS
	Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:00 PM
	To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
	Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

	Hi All

	Sorry for not being specific to Software Development. 
	My school is introducing iPads to our incoming year 7's and
throwing out the textbooks in all subjects. As my other method is maths
and this is a concern to a few of the other teachers, I was wondering if
anyone else's school is doing something similar and wanting to know what
you think. Major concern for us is that we use lots of websites that are
Flash based and therefore wont work (as far as I've been told) and we
now need to redevelop our year 7 curriculum before the start of next
year.

	Any comments would be welcome.

	Allison
	Ringwood Secondary College

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