[Year 12 SofDev] Industry practice - tertiary links

[Adrian Janson]

Hi Steven,

I think that links between the tertiary and secondary sectors need to become
stronger for us to both move forward - and it would be great to have an
extended dialogue with you about this when the time is right (which may be
soon).  So if you are keen to help us onto the right track in terms of
industry standard practice - then it would be great to chat!

For now however, I think it is important not to confuse those working with
and coming to terms with the current study design.  I have renamed this
thread so that those who wish to ignore - simply can.  The current study
design is what is important for the 'right now'.

Cheers,
Adrian
 
Adrian Janson, 
VITTA President
Director of ICT, 
Melbourne High School, 
Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
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-----Original Message-----
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Steven Bird
Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2008 11:04 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Resource flows in a DFD

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
wrote:
>  That's what concerns me.  We are marking things right or wrong according
to
> a set of sometimes-arbitrary rules and definitions that sometimes only
apply
> in our little world of VCE theory.  An outsider in The Real World could
well
> argue that our answers are either moot or just plain wrong according to
best
> practice.
>
>  Our definition of the SDLC, for example, is just one of many, yet we ask
> very specific questions about it that can rule all other SDLC variants
> incorrect.

For effective assessment, I think we need to focus on knowledge and
skills that are relevant and well-codified.  As a body of knowledge, I
don't think the SDLC scores very highly on either measure.  There are
many other practical and interesting topics that could be covered.

A possible starting point is to consider the relationship between the
VCE and university curricula.  From where I stand, it seems very odd
that VCE would include aspects of our third year subjects as they were
taught 10-20 years ago.  Could we find ways to migrate our first-year
curriculum into VCE/VELS?

By the way, here is what Melbourne University does in first year IT,
as of 2008:  http://informatics.unimelb.edu.au/
I guess I might have some of your 2007 students.  :)

Steven Bird
http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/
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