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<font face="Calibri">Hi Roland and Jim who deserves some applause for
saving his daughters files (and for converting her to Linux and now
Ubuntu!)<br>
<br>
There is now an applications called wubi (Windows UBuntu Installer)
which might save you the time and trouble of creating another partition<br>
<br>
>From the wubi site <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wubi-installer.org/">http://wubi-installer.org/</a><br>
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<blockquote>Wubi is an officially supported Ubuntu installer for
Windows users that
can bring you to the Linux world with a single click. Wubi allows you
to install and uninstall Ubuntu as any other Windows application, in a
simple and safe way. Are you curious about Linux and Ubuntu? Trying
them out has never been easier!<br>
<div class="box">
<h2>Wubi is Simple</h2>
<p>No
need to burn a CD. Just run the installer, enter a password for the new
account, and click "Install", go grab a coffee, and when you are back,
Ubuntu will be ready for you.</p>
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<h2>Wubi is Safe</h2>
<p>You
keep Windows as it is, Wubi only adds an extra option to boot into
Ubuntu. Wubi does not require you to modify the partitions of your PC,
or to use a different bootloader, and does not install special drivers.
It works just like any other application. Wubi is spyware and malware
free, and being open source, anyone can verify that.</p>
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<h2>Wubi is Discrete</h2>
<p>Wubi keeps most of the files in one folder, and if you do not
like it, you can simply uninstall it as any other application.</p>
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<h2>Wubi is Free</h2>
<p>Wubi
and Ubuntu cost absolutely nothing (free as in beer), but yet provide a
state of the art, fully functional, operating system that does not
require any activation and does not impose any restriction on its use
(free as in freedom).<br>
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<p>_____________________________________________________________________________________________<br>
>From <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.download.com">www.download.com</a> (5 star rating from editors)<br>
<br>
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<h2>Editor's review of Wubi</h2>
<img src="cid:part1.08050803.08070401@gmail.com"
alt="5 star editors rating"> <strong>Take Linux on a test run</strong>
<p>This
app is one of the easiest ways to add Ubuntu to your Windows system.
Wubi's dialog interface requires users to select a mere six options to
install the Linux OS. Don't expect help with this utility. Users are
expected to have a basic understanding of Linux and booting into
alternate operating systems.</p>
<p>Selecting the install drive,
hard-drive space, language, username, and password is quick with
pull-down selectors. The most difficult decision is choosing the
environment from Ubuntu, Kbuntu, Xubuntu, and UbuntuStudio. Users are
expected to know which they would prefer, as no information is given
about the options. While this is truly a one-click install of Linux, it
isn't fast. The first step downloads an almost 700MB ISO image used to
install Linux. After the download, the app takes a considerable time
unpacking and installing the OS. Boot into Ubuntu and there is another
wait as the OS completes setting preferences and options. It is all
without user intervention, though.</p>
<p>A last reboot and you have a
clean, handy Linux OS on your PC. Numerous apps are preinstalled and
configured. Seconds after first log-in our testers were browsing the
Internet and using a freeware word processor without any extra
configuration. This is a great simple install package for anyone
interested in trying out Linux.<br>
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<p>I am doing it tonight!! I have lost my mac (boo hoo) and am living
in VISTA WinWorld on a Compaq Presario B1916TU with 2GB RAM - have
tried VMWare, Virtual Box and the August PCUser Mag CD version of
Virtual Machine Shop with VMWare Player but not too successfully
(Although I could at least get the dishes done while it loaded
Ubuntu!!) At least Parallels in Mac was usually reasonably stable! Also
tempted to try Hackintosh - I am missing a few things in mac!<br>
</p>
<p>Enjoy the rest of your hols - looking forward to catching up when
you return (a slide show maybe??? lol)<br>
</p>
<p>Cheers<br>
Ros<br>
</p>
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<br>
Roland Gesthuizen wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:8c788a890807140831m7a0aa08yf5f7f6a830aa2ab1@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div>Thanks for the info Ros,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>We are trailing a dual-boot setup for our staff laptop computers
using bootcamp to manage OSX / Windoes / Ubuntu. Last month, they all
chose to switch over to the MacBook. Power users can have fun running
all more than one at once using Parallels. From what I have seen so far
from my friends at NASA in LA, I was suprised to see so many Apple
notebook computers around (Most dual boot with OSX / Linux .. a few
add windows). I am curious what setup the team has in Fort Collins when
I get there in a couple of days.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Isn't it funny that playing about with Linux you also end up
learning more how other operating systems like OSX and Windows work. :-)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards Roland</div>
<div> </div>
<div>PS: am typing this up in a small Navajo hotel PC near the Grand
Canyon with a horrid sunburn. ;-)<br>
</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 13/07/2008, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Jim Maunder</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:techo@ruyton.vic.edu.au">techo@ruyton.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:</span>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Hello Ros and others - <br>
<br>
Long story to make up for the possum stirring.<br>
<br>
One of my recent little home jobs has been to recover files from my
daughter's laptop - it dual booted Windows and Fedora linux, but the
Fedora side became mangled and would not load. It contained amongst
other things her BSc(Hons) thesis written with LaTeX, and although she
had a copy on the Mt Stromlo servers, she wanted the one on the lappy
so she could fix the punctuation and grammar. She wanted me to:<br>
1) recover the files on the linux side<br>
2) remove the Fedora installation and install Ubuntu<br>
<br>
Task 1 proved to be the trickier - the obvious approach was to run
Ubuntu live from a CD, then copy files to an external USB HDD, but this
does not work straight off - I got file access denied messages. A bit
of Googling found why - it seems the gid numbers in Ubuntu and Fedora
are different for ordinary users. I was not game to try 'chown' as a
workaround in case it mucked things up. Now I knew that Ubuntu/Kubuntu
reads and writes to NTFS partions quite happily, so I wondered if it
would work the other way - could Windows read Ext3 partions. More
Googling quickly found two solutions, and the one that worked best is
Ext2IFS for Windows <br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.fs-driver.org/" target="_blank">http://www.fs-driver.org/</a>
<br>
<br>
After installation this searches your system and allows the user to
assign drive letters to Ext2 and Ext3 partitions. I tried it on the
sacrificial lappy here at work and it worked like a charm.<br>
<br>
At home I installed this driver on my daughter's lappy, got drive
letters etc., then found and copied the files off to a caddy. There
were some problems with file and folder names that contained illegal
characters (as far as Windows was concerned), but that was fixed with
Ubuntu from a CD and peace and calm returned to the Maunder household.<br>
<br>
Task 2 was quite interesting for me, because it made me come to grips
with Ubuntu, when previously I would give up if something did not work
immediately, and I was only considering getting it to work in our work
environment. Also, I had a look at what is needed to edit with LaTeX.
See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.latex-project.org/intro.html" target="_blank">http://www.latex-project.org/intro.html</a>
I knew that this has been around for many years in the unix and DEC VAX
world, and it seems that the Linux people prefer 'Kile' as the IDE
(integrated development environment). <a moz-do-not-send="true"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://kile.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://kile.sourceforge.net/</a>
Some more Googling for a Windows LaTeX IDE found 'WinShell' <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.winshell.de/" target="_blank">http://www.winshell.de/</a>!
which has a similar look and feel to 'Kile'. So, back to Ubuntu. <br>
<br>
Again playing with the aforementioned sacrificial laptop (so I could
get the installation right before doing the daughter's machine), Ubuntu
went on easily and then I had to find out how to install software,
which means getting the Synaptic to work, which means getting the
network to work etc. I found that network proxies are set in about 3
places, (system, browser and Synaptic) and that the NDS gateway (I
think that's what it is) is not always picked up automatically. I found
out what you have to do to play MP3 files.<br>
<br>
The end result is that I would happily use Ubuntu on a home machine, as
it does everything I need to do and most of the things I'd like to do
(mostly music stuff). Maybe I'll try to get 'Half-Life' running under
'Wine', but that's what the Windows partition is for.<br>
<br>
rgds<br>
Jim (who hopes you don't mind a bit of off-topic ramble)<br>
<br>
<br>
At 06:04 PM 02/07/2008, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hello all – hope your holidays are fun<br>
<br>
Wow!! This is great – now I can have the best of all three worlds…<br>
<br>
This seems like a great way to introduce yourself to Ubuntu Linux
(although the learning curve is not that steep) without dedicating a
whole machine to it, or having to worry about partitions and dual
booting.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://lifehacker.com/358208/seamlessly-run-linux-apps-on-your-windows-desktop"
target="_blank">http://lifehacker.com/358208/seamlessly-run-linux-apps-on-your-windows-desktop</a>
<br>
...<br>
<b>Roslyn Meadows<br>
Head of ICT Implementation<br>
Head of Assessment and Reporting<br>
Bentleigh Secondary College </b></blockquote>
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We have to use this Disclaimer<br>
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Views, opinions, etc. expressed reflect those of the author and not<br>
Ruyton Girls' School <br>
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Jim Maunder<br>
Laptop and PC Support Technician<br>
Ruyton Girls School<br>
Melbourne, Australia<br>
ph 03 9290 9374<br>
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-- <br>
Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au">http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
<br>
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has."
--Margaret Mead </blockquote>
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