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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Can I have a copy of your "minimum attendance 
policy".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>We use Sirius Rollmarker <A 
href=3D"http://www.siriuslogic.com.au/">http://www.siriuslogic.com.au/</A>&n=
bsp;using 
PDA's.&nbsp; Works OK - just.&nbsp; Thinking of changeover to DayMap due to=
 
integration with the Timetabler SW.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Both can use PDA's and Online access which is our p=
referred 
system (how can you be sure who is swiping that card ?).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Would be interested in moving to fingerprint or oth=
er 
biometric when available so that students had responsibility, but think that=
 the 
teacher has to be responsible until then....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Think that we have jumped the gun while the softwar=

systems are undeveloped and bought a lot of grief rather than a clean 
solution.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The fatal flaw in all systems is that they aren't 
integrated into CASES....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>&nbsp;Just ONE e.g.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When bursar creates an excursions charge, this stud=
ent list 
is immediately available to CASES attendance as an absence lists 
template.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The absence of this integration in any other softwa=
re 
creates VERY significant data re-entry burden....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D718530910-06062007><FONT face=3Dta=
homa 
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Stephen Digby, 
Learning Technology Manager<BR>mailto:&nbsp;<A 
href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> 
<BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A 
href=3D"http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Ph:=
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955 55 955&nbsp; Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 
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dog's idea of what God should be. Holbrook Jackson <BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV><=
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au 
[mailto:offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>RILEY, 
Bruce<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
Offtopic@edulists.com.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Offtopic] Attendance 
systems<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Hi 
all<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I apologise for the cross po=
sts. 
Some lists receive more responses than others. </SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=3DWingdings size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P=
>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">We are investigating options=
 for 
online attendance software. What are schools using for 
this?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Our requirements (sorry this=
 
should read wish list) are a:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal 
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><!=
[if !supportLists]><FONT 
face=3DSymbol size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">=
<SPAN 
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">&middot;<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">System that students can use=
 to 
swipe their card when they arrive late/leave early to/from school. VCE 
coordinators are particularly keen on this as <st1:place 
w:st=3D"on">Kew</st1:place> runs a minimum attendance policy. Staff could ac=
cess 
it online and mark their roll each lesson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal 
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><!=
[if !supportLists]><FONT 
face=3DSymbol size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">=
<SPAN 
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">&middot;<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Link in with our current AD=
 
network so that only one database is maintained<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal 
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><!=
[if !supportLists]><FONT 
face=3DSymbol size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">=
<SPAN 
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">&middot;<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Hand held device could also=
 access 
the system via wireless<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal 
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><!=
[if !supportLists]><FONT 
face=3DSymbol size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">=
<SPAN 
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">&middot;<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Reporting<o:p></o:p></SPAN><=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal 
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><!=
[if !supportLists]><FONT 
face=3DSymbol size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">=
<SPAN 
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">&middot;<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><=
SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Generate SMS or emails to pa=
rents 
for non attendance<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I know this has elements of=
 
&#8216;Ultranet&#8217; but we are keen to implement a system 
now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">If this has already been ask=
ed I 
apologise in advance.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Bruce<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT=
></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT=
></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">------------------------------=
------------------------------------------------------</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o=
:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bruce 
Riley</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ICT 
Manager</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"><FONT=
 
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kew</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceNa=
me><FONT 
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> 
<st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">High 
School</st1:PlaceType></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><FONT=
 face=3DArial 
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1393 Burke 
Road</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPA=

style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kew</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><=
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ast, VIC. 
3102</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<FONT 
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Australia</SPAN></FONT></st1:p=
lace></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone:&nbsp;61 3 9859 
8652</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6=
1 3 
9819 7880</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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