Laurie has a point worth reflecting upon. I am not privy to the inner machinations of ultranet, just the aspirations of those who seem to occasionally orbit it. What will be delivered, only Oracle really knows at this point. It would be wise to reserve judgement until then.<br>
<br>What Kevork was scrabbling for back in 2005 was a data transport layer that went beyond shuffling csv files about on USB keys. Imagine connecting Moodle up to a secure XML data link to school data from Ultranet. You can imagine the same for other systems in the school, attendance, library etc. This level of data exchange is attractive to me as it quarantines personal information from operational information .. in a hospital it would be akin to separating my personal details from files on the ECG or NMR server. The latter only needs to know my case number, name and d.o.b .. not my address, next of kin etc. Imagine the library server being able to update for new students with a link to the Cases Admin system but only able to extract what it needs to operate .. or FirstClass automatically listing the new staff or students to be added or removed from an attendance system etc and filling in all the forms. Crikey .. after all these years we still have not got it right.<br>
<br>We already see this level of secure data exchange on the Internet between GoogleDocs, Flickr and other web2.0 tools. No magic there and will be a major part of Moodle 2.0 due for release any week now (yes I am excited!)<br>
<br>Nice list Donna .. you are a better detective than me :-)<br><br>Paul, you are right to be cautious. Very few state wide deployments like this have worked to plan. Considerable angst for teachers being generated in WA and NSW isn't a good track record.<br>
<br>Laurie, the best advice I got from somebody from the southern metro region was to continue to engage staff with Moodle. For what it does, it does this very well. The challenge of course is how to embed Ultranet into an existing school infrastructure and it sounds like the changes mooted for Moodle 2.0 are a step in the right direction.<br>
<br>Perhaps I am imagining problems and Ultranet will do everything
short of making a hot brew for me in the morning .. perhaps good reason
will prevail and they will build it up slowly, slowly, slowly and work
closely with all stakeholders, not bloat it full of features that make the
core parts fall over or stifle innovation by mandating one size and system to fit all. Nice to think about it though. Imagine .. <br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/9 Laurie Savage <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>></span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m not sure that I agree with you there Kevork. I would see
Moodle as an adjunct to the Ultranet. I’m hoping in the best of all possible
worlds that the Ultranet will provide a high level of administrative function
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevork Krozian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 8 November 2009 9:56 PM<div class="im"><br>
<b>To:</b> The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List<br>
</div><b>Subject:</b> [Moodle] Ultranet quick timeline of history</span></p>
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moodle and the ultranet are effectively trying to deliver the same thing, I
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was wondering if anyone had a timeline of the ultranet history to date ?</span></p>
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need to brief some colleagues on the timeline of the initiative from date
of concept announcement, progress, tender, re-tender, how long we have
been waiting and when we can expect to see it if we are not an ultranet coach
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Krozian<br>
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